re: Anyone here vegan or vegetarian or tried a vegan or vegetarian diet?

Are they tortured, or are they just confined to smaller cages (as in chicken plants)? That's not torture. That's maximizing space so that they can produce more for less. There's a reason organic free range stuff costs more. It takes more space and money to produce that way. You know how many mouths cant afford the price of organic or free range raised food. I would bet it would put a hurting on half the populations check books. I personally don't care if a chicken is raised in a cage if the whole reason it was born was to die for me to eat.

And I actually try to buy grass fed beef and free range chicken eggs, etc. But my reasons aren't ethical. Its health. I'd like to keep as much processed chemicals and crap out of my body.

I grew up in a farming family. I ate chickens that I cut the heads off of earlier in the day. I ate pork from pigs that I named as a kid. I ate beef from my cousin's cows. I just learned from a very young age where meat came from. I guess I was raised with no hang ups on the process. We do what we have to do to eat.