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re: NBA Free Agency Thread: Day 21
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:21 am to VOLhalla
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:21 am to VOLhalla
I may have misheard this, but I believe I read a report that Minnesota is more isolated than any other NBA city. Someone used it as a talking point for why the Wolves do well at home and poor on the road beyond what you'd expect for similar teams.
I'm not against the Twin Cities at all. I'm sure they're great. I've spoken to a current NBA player that says no one wants to go to Minnesota or Utah unless the money is just insanely great. Those February games, waking up and scraping ice off your windows in negative 20 weather are tough. If it was a summer sport it'd be an easier sell.
I'm not against the Twin Cities at all. I'm sure they're great. I've spoken to a current NBA player that says no one wants to go to Minnesota or Utah unless the money is just insanely great. Those February games, waking up and scraping ice off your windows in negative 20 weather are tough. If it was a summer sport it'd be an easier sell.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 8:30 am to Sandkhan
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I'm not against the Twin Cities at all. I'm sure they're great.
In summer, it's a nice area. In winter, screw that.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:05 am to Sandkhan
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But you, personally, as a Cavs fan, wouldn't you rather do this megadeal than straight Wiggins/Bennett/picks for Love?
Not really. Kyrie hasn't had a reliable second option since he's been with the Cavs. Kyrie and Bron running the pick and roll will be unguardable.
I'm not trading Wiggins either.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:20 am to philabuck
The Onion
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BREAKING: Cavaliers Agree To Trade Andrew Wiggins, LeBron James For Kevin Love
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CLEVELAND—Following lengthy and protracted trade negotiations, the Cleveland Cavaliers announced Friday that the team has agreed to deal No. 1 draft pick Andrew Wiggins and four-time league MVP LeBron James to the Minnesota Timberwolves in exchange for power forward Kevin Love. “Though it was a tough decision to let Andrew and LeBron go, we felt that adding Kevin gives our team the best chance to compete for an NBA championship next season,” said Cleveland GM David Griffin, adding that it ultimately wasn’t possible to acquire Love from Minnesota without giving up both Wiggins and James. “We’re thrilled to welcome Kevin to the team. I have no doubt that he will be a great fit in Cleveland and will quickly become a fan favorite.” Griffin went on to say that everyone within the Cavaliers organization wished Wiggins and James nothing but the best in Minnesota.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:57 am to philabuck
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Not really. Kyrie hasn't had a reliable second option since he's been with the Cavs. Kyrie and Bron running the pick and roll will be unguardable.
I think people are really undervaluing Kyrie. He may be the best PG in the game in the next year or two.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:12 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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I think people are really undervaluing Kyrie. He may be the best PG in the game in the next year or two.
Let's pump those brakes until he gets in the Top 5.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:31 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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I think people are really undervaluing Kyrie. He may be the best PG in the game in the next year or two.
I would hope so, he has a top 2 player in the league playing along-side him. He won't be the focus of every defense.
His PER36 numbers have stayed relatively the same in the last 3 years and that's why people tend to not include him in the superstar PG category.
Superstars tend to constantly improve. He's never done that.
Look at CP3's PER 36 #'s
.430/.282/.847
.437/.350/.818
.488/.369/.851
and averaged .482/.367/.868 since
16.1ppg/5.1rpg/7.8apg/2.3tov
16.9ppg/4.3rpg/8.7apg/2.5tov
20.2ppg/3.8rpg/11.1apg/2.4tov
and averaged 18.8ppg/4.3rpg/10.1apg/2.4tov since
Kyrie's #s have been
.469/.399/.872
.452/.391/.855
.430/.358/.861
21.8ppg/4.4rpg/6.4apg/3.7tov
23.3ppg/3.8rpg/6.2apg/3.4tov
21.3ppg/3.7rpg/6.2apg/2.7tov
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 10:32 am
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:05 am to htran90
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Chalmers said he was shocked to see James return to Cleveland after four seasons in Miami. The two have spoken since, with Chalmers wishing well his former teammate. He was among the closest players to James.
“We were surprised,” Chalmers said. “I never thought anybody would want to leave Miami for Cleveland but you grow up and you move on. That’s what happened and there’s no love lost.”
LINK
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:00 pm to c on z
Spurs resign Matt Bonner today, the rest of the NBA is scurred.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:03 pm to LSU Piston
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Let's pump those brakes until he gets in the Top 5.
He already is top 5. There certainly aren't 5 I'd take before Irving.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:08 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:you serious?
There certainly aren't 5 I'd take before Irving.
Paul
Westbrook
Rondo
Parker
Lillard
Plus some dude in Chicago if he ever plays
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:11 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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He already is top 5. There certainly aren't 5 I'd take before Irving.
Kyrie Irving is not Top 5.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:12 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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He already is top 5.
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Player A: 21.6 ppg, 6.4 APG, 41.7 fg%, 32.4 3-point%
Player B: 21.3 ppg, 8.9 APG, 42.8 fg%, 33.5 3-point%
Player C: 21.1 ppg, 6.2 APG, 42.8 fg%, 36.6 3-point%
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Player A is Steve Francis Year 3.
Player B is Stephon Marbury Year 3.
Player C is Kyrie Irving Year 3.
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Player A: 21.1 ppg, 6.3 apg, 3.6 rpg, 43.1 FG%, 36.6 3FG%, 20.1 PER
Player B: 21.3 ppg, 6.9 apg, 3.3 rpg, 43.8 FG%, 29.1 3FG%, 21.6 PER
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Player A? Kyrie. Player B? Devin Harris in 2009.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:13 pm to genro
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Paul
Westbrook
Rondo
Parker
Lillard
It shouldn't even be debatable. All 5 are clearly better at this point. Throw in Steph Curry as well.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:13 pm to LSU Piston
How the frick did I forget Curry
John Wall too
John Wall too
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:14 pm to genro
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How the frick did I forget Curry
John Wall too
Mike Conley, too
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:17 pm to LSU Piston
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Mike Conley, too
I wouldn't say he's better than Irving.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:27 pm to PortCityTiger24
I'm not positive Kyrie is even top 10 right now.
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