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re: Our young defensive front vs. Wisconsin's running game...
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:18 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:18 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I don't think we're in a much better position there
Far better. Both QB's have gone through spring and summer drills. In the case of Jennings, he's got a year of experience under his belt, albeit limited.
As far as the defense we face, it for sure won't be the veteran unit we faced in Iowa. We match maybe the strongest unit on the team, OL, against a brand-new front seven.
quote:
LSU will win, but it will be close.
LSU will win by two TD's at least.
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:31 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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Far better. Both QB's have gone through spring and summer drills. In the case of Jennings, he's got a year of experience under his belt, albeit limited.
I'm not too hyped about Wisconsin's quarterback situation. If experience is your barometer, though, Joel Stave has started 19 games over the past two seasons.
With the turnover at receiver and questionable quarterback play, I am not sure anyone can accurately assess the passing games of either team until August 30th.
Unquestionably, however, LSU is the more talented team.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:39 am to hoopsgalore
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If experience is your barometer, though, Joel Stave has started 19 games over the past two seasons.
The question was, is LSU better at QB than we were last year going into the bowl game vs Iowa. We had a freshman QB stepping in as an emergency replacement in that game. Our season-long starter had gone down in the second half of our final game. Anthony Jennings had very limited reps going into the Iowa game. And he played all season long knowing he would be the backup.
This year, that same QB and his true freshman challenger have split the reps between them throughout the spring and summer as they vie for the starting job.
That's a world of difference in both mindset and reps going into the opening game this year. And unlike the bowl game, where Iowa fans out-numbered LSU fans, the Game in Reliant will be at least 70% LSU fans.
Don't count that out.
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The school secured 34,000 seats to sell for the game in Houston, the school’s largest out-of-state alumni base. LSU originally received just 25,000 seats. Wisconsin received 10,000 seats to sell.
LSU expects to sell 73,000-plus season tickets, TE Jeter enrolls
Just as an FYI, Houston is the home of LSU's largest alumni base.
Edit: Added link
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 1:08 am
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:13 am to TigerAlum93
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Wisconsin's secondary is supposed to be their strength this fall.
Their corners are, but it has been reported that the safety they say is coming back, is supposed to move down to play LB. They have returning corners, but no returning starters at safety.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:19 am to FranMully
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Their backup, Clement, is really good too. Played against him in high school.
Yeah I'm expecting 100 yards from Gordon and 70 or 80 from Clement. I still think we get 200 yards from Fournette and Magee alone. Add in Hilliard and Williams, plus read/speed option from the QBs, and you are looking at a long arse night for their shiny new front 7.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:34 am to Eternally Undefeated
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I don't know why so many of our fans seem to think that this is a walkover opponent. Wisconsin will not be intimidated by us at all.
They aren't walkovers, but our advantages beat their advantages. I'd concede 200 to Gordon and Clement because I watched them last year and that OL is nasty. Thing is, they have QB problems and pass catcher problems and they are not as talented as us to cover them. Does it matter if our DTs are inexperienced? We are loaded at corner so we can stack 8 in the box the majority of the time. We are stout at DE starters and our 3 deep at LB is ridiculous. Not only are we loaded at LB and go 3 deep at RB (anybody still saying wait til Fournette hits the field, just freaking stahp), their entire front 7 is new.
RBs
push
OL
push
DL
LSU
LB
overwhelmingly LSU
WRs
LSU (because of talent)
TEs
push but could be LSU
DBs
LSU by talent and experience
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:42 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Just like Iowa last year. It was close.
No it is not the same. Not only was it the end of the year, they had the best LB unit in the nation and were a top 10 pass defense and we had a true freshman with his first start.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 5:55 am to tiigerr1
quote:definitely a plus for LSU. At times the DTs will simply have to take up blockers (in a zone) to keep the LB's clean to make the play. I say if our LBs are making plays left and right, the DL is likely doing what is asked of them. On the condition they aren't getting pushed off the line. Force the play out, LSU's speed will show.
That's why 2 lockdown corners are so important. We can help with the run defense.
But, I agree, stopping the run is the key. That, and our QB play.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 5:56 am to toughcrittercrumb
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That's why I don't know why some Tiger fans would give the RB advantage to us. Until Fournette suits up, you have to give Wisky the advantage.
Honestly, after watching the Iowa game, LF and the other 2 newbies better be ready. Other than our new recruits, RB is a very weak position...
Posted on 6/30/14 at 6:31 am to toughcrittercrumb
If we can play man coverage, we can load the box against the run.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 6:49 am to TigersOfGeauxld
The Iowa game...hmmm. We dominated them in that game. A pick 6, or to the 1, and a KO for a TD. We shut it down offensiely after AJ threw the pick, not that we were very agressive passing prior to that. Game was a fluke and we still won.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 7:17 am to NWLAtiger55
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Against Iowa, Jennings had trouble with pocket awareness, decision making, and accuracy even though he wasn't asked to do a whole lot.
and did the same thing in the spring game... two pick 6's...
Posted on 6/30/14 at 7:38 am to monsterballads
After watching that tape of Gordan...I agree with the commentator who compared him to Eric Dickerson. That long gate, great vision, one step quick cuts always heading North - South...yea...Eric Dickerson reincarnated.
We better be ready for this kid. Lots of talent.
We better be ready for this kid. Lots of talent.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 7:45 am to toughcrittercrumb
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Yesterday, I watched the South Carolina-Wisky Bowl game. USC never had an answer for Gordon. He will be the best RB we will see until we face Bama. Our defense will have a huge challenge to start the season. LSU's run defense vs Wisky's run attack will likely be the deciding factor. Wisky returns 4 OL and their starting QB. Everyone knows that LSU's defensive interior will have 2 new starters and all the backups are freshman. This will be our 2014 version of the 2011 Oregon game. This is gonna be good!!!
Lets flip this around....we have 4 OL coming back...and a back field that Wisky will never see again all year....our defense line we saw in the Iowa game is most likely what we will see in this game..minus AJ...i think we will be alright...it will def be smash mouth football for sure
Posted on 6/30/14 at 8:17 am to Datbayoubengal
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LSU's run defense vs Wisky's run attack will likely be the deciding factor
Nope
Nothing Wisky does offensively will decide this game. It will come down to LSU on third down.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 8:18 am
Posted on 6/30/14 at 8:40 am to toughcrittercrumb
Young, but talented and VERY deep. On the flip side of the coin, we return pretty much our entire OL and considerably more than they do on defense.
If you look at returning starters alone, this one weighs in our favor. If you look at incoming and returning talent, it weighs HEAVILY in our favor.
If you look at returning starters alone, this one weighs in our favor. If you look at incoming and returning talent, it weighs HEAVILY in our favor.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 8:47 am to LSUfan4444
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LSU's run defense vs Wisky's run attack will likely be the deciding factor Nope Nothing Wisky does offensively will decide this game. It will come down to LSU on third down.
You can say that about every game. LSU will definitely have to get Wisky into 3rd down and long situations. We don't want th to have the option to run on 3rd and short.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 8:50 am to mpwilging
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Other than our new recruits, RB is a very weak position...
Are you fricking serious right now??
Posted on 6/30/14 at 8:57 am to Datbayoubengal
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Our young defensive front vs. Wisconsin's running game... quote: I don't know why so many of our fans seem to think that this is a walkover opponent. Wisconsin will not be intimidated by us at all. They aren't walkovers, but our advantages beat their advantages. I'd concede 200 to Gordon and Clement because I watched them last year and that OL is nasty. Thing is, they have QB problems and pass catcher problems and they are not as talented as us to cover them. Does it matter if our DTs are inexperienced? We are loaded at corner so we can stack 8 in the box the majority of the time. We are stout at DE starters and our 3 deep at LB is ridiculous. Not only are we loaded at LB and go 3 deep at RB (anybody still saying wait til Fournette hits the field, just freaking stahp), their entire front 7 is new. RBs push OL push DL LSU LB overwhelmingly LSU WRs LSU (because of talent) TEs push but could be LSU DBs LSU by talent and experience
I agree with everything except RBs. Iowa has the advantage. You need to watch Gordon's highlights or the South Carolina game. Until we see how good LF is at this level, you have to give Wisky the advantage.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:20 am to toughcrittercrumb
How people actually worry about this game is beyond me. I think Les miles non conference record speaks for itself, to think LSU leaves this game with anything other than a win is absurd to me. Talent wise LSU is superior in almost every position on the field, and that invcludes coaching department. Tigers win big no doubt about it!
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 9:32 am
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