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re: 2 billion year old fossils of multicellular life forms discovered

Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:28 pm to
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What do you mean how did his message resonate? They crucified him!


I meant how would a message that focuses on being saved from hell ever get off the ground when those being preached to dont really believe in hell. It would be like telling you believe in me and you will be saved from the boogie man. It seems to me that Jesus's message has been twisted into this fear based crap of being saved or burn.
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 2:30 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:33 pm to
Jesus's teachings included the "be saved or burn", but he didn't dwell on them nearly as much as those evangelical preachers you and I so abhor. The crazy thing is, the heaven and hell stuff didn't really bother the Jews so much. The Pharisees were so concerned with the law that they were blinded by everything else. The crucified him because he was a threat to their power. Jesus taught that adherence to the law was not as important as faith. Jesus believed in humble action rather than the whole "Be exactly our brand of 'good' or we stone you to death" vibe the scribes were jivin'.

The Pharisees only retained power at the behest of the Roman rulers. The Romans allowed them to stay in charge of the church with the hopes that they could help keep the rowdy, stubborn population docile. The Pharisees feared that if they couldn't contain Jesus of Nazareth and his huge throngs of followers, that the Romans would remove them and replace them or outlaw the faith entirely.

Jesus's message of Heaven and Hell resonated with the poor. The people who wanted to believe that there was something better than this world and that those who were wicked and cruel in this life would find justice in the next.
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14023 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:41 pm to
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Jesus's message has been twisted into this fear based crap of being saved or burn


There are some churches that try to scare the hell out of you. There are some churches that try to love the Heaven into you. I chose the latter.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 4:18 pm to
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It seems to me that Jesus's message has been twisted into this fear based crap of being saved or burn.



yep

This image sums it up 100%

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