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re: Can we talk about "Rape Culture?"

Posted on 6/9/14 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by tiderider
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 3:43 pm to
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schexyoung
Can we talk about "Rape Culture?"
Is it sexist to believe she can't be trusted to monitor her own consumption and be held accountable for her actions?

Anybody?

If we are all indeed equal in every way, why does only one sex hold the accountability? Is is crazy to expect a girl to look out for herself?



rape is about girls who fail to look out for themselves? ...
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 3:48 pm to
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rape is about girls who fail to look out for themselves?


It can certainly be a part of the story. "Oh, this wonderful frat boy calls me 'bitch' and 'ho' while watching degrading porn movies and pours me drinks without telling what's in them. But he has a good heart, I'm perfectly safe going up to his room to talk about our dreams without any chance of physical contact"
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 4:27 pm to
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ape is about girls who fail to look out for themselves? ...


Do you not see a difference between a woman walking down a public street, getting kidnapped and raped vs. a woman choosing to attend a party at frat house, choosing to drink whatever someone hands her, etc.

If anyone chooses to alter their mental awareness, they are accountable for the mistakes they made during their lapse in mental awareness (aka passing out arse up on a couch full of horny drunk college men). Is it rape? Up to the jury, but it's also a situation easily avoidable unlike the former example of strolling a public street.

Simple guide

1 - Don't go anywhere you may feel threatened and may be alone (frat-house).

2 - If #1 occurs, don't alert your mental state and ability to interpret your environment by drinking anything you don't pour yourself or you don't watch someone pour (house punch).
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 4:30 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 4:34 pm to
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rape is about girls who fail to look out for themselves? ...


If a person leaves for vacation and leaves their house unsecured and it gets broken into while they are gone, they have been robbed. But they didn't use common sense in preventing a crime.

If a girl goes and gets blitz drunk at a frat party and is subsequently raped, she is still the victim of a crime. But it isn't stupid or sexist to note that some basic common sense could have lessened the likelihood of the crime (and none of that removes any culpability from the rapist).
Posted by City
Member since Jul 2005
1232 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 9:49 pm to
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rape is about girls who fail to look out for themselves? ...


Actual rape? No. "Regretting a poor decision" sexual assault? Yes.

The topic of the thread is about what feminists have coined as "rape culture", and the OP gave the example of the Occidental student who was expelled based on "she-said" in a situation of consensual sex.

The feminists' war against men by pushing the idea of "rape culture" has done nothing more than encourage more "less-than-honest" accusations from girls who regretted fricking a guy the next day.

If a girl drinks at a party, decides to have sex with someone, and regrets her actions the next day, she can file a sexual assault complaint with the university, and it is completely her word against his. The process by which some universities are determining blame, and, ultimately, deciding a young man's fate, is very one-sided.

In the Occidental story, the young man was not given the opportunity to cross-examine any of the witnesses during the university's process.. It was nothing more than a hearing, with one side presented, and a decision made to expel the guy.

He has since filed suit against the university, which he damn well should have.

She claimed she was too drunk to remember. She was in his room, dancing and making out with him, went back to her room with a friend, the guy texted her to come back, and she texted him asking "do you have a condom?" He replied "yes", and she proceeded to go back downstairs to his room to have sex with him. That seems pretty consensual to me.

How is that not consent?
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