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re: Should Arts and Humanities Majors be denied Grants and Loans?

Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37522 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:20 pm to
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the Successful English Major would have been unemployed as a Marketing Major?


Why are you trying to tell people what to study? Are you telling me that Marketing is such a complicated concept that an English major can't pick it up?

Because you'd be dead wrong. Diversity of thought is a good thing. Heck, I'd rather have an industrious biology or English major who might have a divergent opinion and took to the Marketing realm, rather than a Marketing major.

The problem is three-fold:
1) Politicians want degrees tied to outcomes for proof for data/value/etc.
2) The general public thinks degree=jobs
3) Employers are too lazy to actually vet potential employees correctly and too short sighted to invest in them, so having a "Marketing Degree," as proof is just an easy out.

It's a mess, but employing measure to limit this is not the answer. Correcting beliefs is.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79487 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:24 pm to
IMO the point would not only be to funnel students into majors with direct ties to employment, but to force universities to enhance the value of their liberal arts offerings.

Good, rigorous liberal arts education is an excellent thing. Too bad programs are dominated by fluff and don't convey the attributes we associate with a classical liberal arts education.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15054 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:25 pm to
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Are you telling me that Marketing is such a complicated concept that an English major can't pick it up?

Lost in the anti-liberal arts rabblerousing is that the % of students getting lib arts degrees has been steadily declining for about 40 years. Yet the general public has this fixed idea that colleges are churning out nothing but transgender studies majors. In fact the most popular degree these days, by far, is general business.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10061 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:26 pm to
Freauxzen,

There is literally one option to complete the task at hand while maintaining our current educational structure. This option is to broaden the social contract and make undergraduate studies completely free of charge, like in Europe.

Good luck
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