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re: Should Arts and Humanities Majors be denied Grants and Loans?
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:02 pm to Iona Fan Man
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:02 pm to Iona Fan Man
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taxpayers shouldn't be funding degrees that don't lead to direct professional employment
First, colleges aren't built to have anything to do with employment. So judging them, or the degrees they offer, based on this fact is inaccurate.
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If school wants, they can grant/loan students from their endowments....no tax payer money
Through research grants, which are massively more valuable in sciences and engineering, non-A&H grads usually have access to more pools of money if they really require it.
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I looked and looked.....I'd like to see an unemployment/loan default list based on major(as a percentage)
Does it matter? One of the best things that colleges do is build a varied and discipline-fluid workforce. Putting in measures, and legal restrictions, on that output is, well, ignorant.
Instead of wasting time telling people what they can't or shouldn't do...
We should help build humanities and art programs that are more efficient and direct in how they prepare students for jobs. You can't tell me that an English major has no place in the work force, because then, again, that's just ignorance.
The problem is that faculty and deans don't see the need for this, yet. Their focus is on creating miniature versions of themselves, so only the truly creative and/or ambitious can figure out how to use an A & H background effectively. We just need to break the clone cycle so that people understand the value of an A & H degree.
I mean, do you understand that this:
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Arts and Humanities Majors be denied Grants and Loans
Means you're effectively putting rails and limitations on knowledge output? Think about that for a second.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:07 pm to Freauxzen
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You can't tell me that an English major has no place in the work force
the Successful English Major would have been unemployed as a Marketing Major?
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:08 pm to Freauxzen
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Means you're effectively putting rails and limitations on knowledge output? Think about that for a second.
This seems premised on the idea that Arts and Humanities programs convey knowledge, which is arguable.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:15 pm to Freauxzen
Many seem to think anyone can just go online and teach themselves to be worldly and vastly knowledgable. In pictures, of course.
Seems to be working out well for them.
There is some truth in his lament though. At some point, someone needs to step up and deliver the value proposition. College is absurdly expensive. It's great to have everyone striving to be as bright as they can be, but in reality, we are competing in a global labor force where technical knowledge is becoming more and more necessary for success.
The ability to earn is just as important as access to food and water. Burying people in debt is going to rear it's ugly head at some point. I will end it with this, a smart person, possessing a high degree of emotional intelligence, educated in any field, will always find success.
Seems to be working out well for them.
There is some truth in his lament though. At some point, someone needs to step up and deliver the value proposition. College is absurdly expensive. It's great to have everyone striving to be as bright as they can be, but in reality, we are competing in a global labor force where technical knowledge is becoming more and more necessary for success.
The ability to earn is just as important as access to food and water. Burying people in debt is going to rear it's ugly head at some point. I will end it with this, a smart person, possessing a high degree of emotional intelligence, educated in any field, will always find success.
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