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re: CNN Vs. Fox News Website: Is This the Same Country's News?
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:07 am to Cajun Revolution
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:07 am to Cajun Revolution
fox news is garbage
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:08 am to lroach2
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cable news is garbage
FIFY
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:08 am to Salmon
There is no middle. And those who think fox is conservative need to wake up. They are all cut from the same cloth and neither have the public interest in mind
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:08 am to forksup
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WSJ/tNYT: Slight biases, but not to the extent of a "join us" mentality.
LOL what. WSJ, yes, it's conservative but from a cautious and intellectual perspective.
NYT is very, very far left. Other than Douthat there is almost no right influence.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:08 am to lroach2
So is CNN. So is MSNBC.
PBS, boys. No bias.
PBS, boys. No bias.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:10 am to The Third Leg
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PBS, boys. No bias.
Yeah, no bias at all from Gwen Ifill or Tavis Smiley...
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:13 am to Pettifogger
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NYT is very, very far left. Other than Douthat there is almost no right influence
Ah, I only read three articles a day from the NYT app. I was assuming they weren't biased. Sigh. It seems to be okay though...
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:14 am to Pettifogger
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"[Propaganda] must be aimed at the emotions and only to a very limited degree at the so-called intellect... The art of propaganda lies in understanding the emotional ideas of the great masses and finding, through a psychologically correct form, the way to the attention and thence to the heart of the broad masses."
-- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, pp. 180
quote:
"The receptivity of the great masses is very limited, their intelligence small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands..."
-- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, pp. 180-181.
Outside of that whole take over the world, murder everybody thing.....
He was def. right on some things.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:14 am to forksup
This thread is really bringing out the liberals 
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:14 am to forksup
NYT News stories are the absolute best. Editorial board not so much.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:15 am to goldenbadger08
just to make sure i'm not mistaken for a skinhead...
quote:
"Its failings notwithstanding, there is much to be said in favor of journalism in that by giving us the opinion of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community."
-- Oscar Wilde
quote:
"Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle... Perhaps an editor might begin a reformation in some such way as this. Divide his paper into four chapters, heading the 1st, Truths. 2d, Probabilities. 3d, Possibilities. 4th, Lies. The first chapter would be very short."
-- Thomas Jefferson, 1807
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:16 am to goldenbadger08
I have begrudgingly voted straight ticket R in every election, FWIW. But I'd rather put my balls in a vice than watch 20 minutes of FNC programming.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:16 am to goldenbadger08
I really despise the bull shite idea that CNN is some bastion of down the middle straight shooters. All the cable news channels cater to their audience. Non-bias media be damned.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:18 am to goldenbadger08
I've honestly not watched anything but satirized news for a few years. I prefer to read.
With the levy of bias against PBS, it appears that an unbiased vantage point of the political sphere in the television realm is a more rare discovery than a unicorn. They are easily the most unbiased source of news.
With the levy of bias against PBS, it appears that an unbiased vantage point of the political sphere in the television realm is a more rare discovery than a unicorn. They are easily the most unbiased source of news.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:21 am to Prominentwon
quote:I must have a different translation.. I can't find that excerpt.
"[Propaganda] must be aimed at the emotions and only to a very limited degree at the so-called intellect... The art of propaganda lies in understanding the emotional ideas of the great masses and finding, through a psychologically correct form, the way to the attention and thence to the heart of the broad masses."
-- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, pp. 180
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:21 am to Prominentwon
THE conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.
We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society.
Our invisible governors are, in many cases, unaware of the identity of their fellow members in the inner cabinet. They govern us by their qualities of natural leadership, their ability to supply needed ideas and by their key position in the social structure. Whatever attitude one chooses to take toward this condition, it remains a fact that in almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons—a trifling fraction of our hundred and twenty million—who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world.
Edward Bernays (Father of Public Relations), Propaganda, 1928
We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society.
Our invisible governors are, in many cases, unaware of the identity of their fellow members in the inner cabinet. They govern us by their qualities of natural leadership, their ability to supply needed ideas and by their key position in the social structure. Whatever attitude one chooses to take toward this condition, it remains a fact that in almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons—a trifling fraction of our hundred and twenty million—who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world.
Edward Bernays (Father of Public Relations), Propaganda, 1928
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 10:23 am
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:21 am to goldenbadger08
It's what I found online.
I'll need to look through the book at home.
I'll need to look through the book at home.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:22 am to RedRifle
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NYT News stories are the absolute best. Editorial board not so much.
Yeah, I only read the news stories. They seem pretty straight-to-the-fact to me. At least the ones I have read.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:24 am to Prominentwon
quote:Got it.
It's what I found online.
My copy goes, "All propaganda must be popular and its intellectual level must be adjusted to the most limited intelligence among those it is addressed to."
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:25 am to JasonMason
quote:There is no news source that is bias free. I doubt that there ever has been.
Non-bias media be damned.
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