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re: FYI: no-fat and low-fat milk is more likely to make you obese than whole milk

Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:18 pm to
Posted by Lincoln1
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:18 pm to
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FYI: no-fat and low-fat milk is more likely to make you obese than whole milk


Pretty much every study cited refers to what's given to kids under four.

I'm guessing by "you" you mean all the infants and toddlers reading the site.

Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:19 pm to
Whole milk is only 3% fat, not like it's that much higher than 2% or skim
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:21 pm to
2% and skim are vastly different.

On topic: what's important is that adults drinking whole over skim are making a damn poor choice. Paint it any way you want to, saturated fat is saturated fat.

It's like saying studies have proven diet coke can increase appetite, so I suppose drinking coke is a better alternative.
This post was edited on 5/24/14 at 11:24 pm
Posted by FenrirTheBeard
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:26 pm to
Whole milk tastes 10000 times better, also
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:34 pm to
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On topic: what's important is that adults drinking whole over skim are making a damn poor choice. Paint it any way you want to, saturated fat is saturated fat.

Well, heres the problem.
quote:

A central issue is what replaces saturated fat if someone reduces the amount of saturated fat in their diet. If it is replaced with refined starch or sugar, which are the largest sources of calories in the U.S. diet, then the risk of heart disease remains the same.

The study clearly says that when reducing saturated fats, humans replace it with something more deadly. Whole milk satisfies the appetite, which in the long run is the healthier choice
Posted by barry
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:36 pm to
I agree 100%.

Plus, go find out what they have to do to make skim milk.

:yak:
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:38 pm to
School lunch requirements are a joke.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:40 pm to
Milk is meant to be consumed with cookies or cake, not to satisfy an appetite. Everything in moderation people.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33841 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:40 pm to
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have a lower BMI


Worthless

It's really simple. We already know everything we need to know about non health-related obesity. Eat well, get enough exercise to burn off what you eat, build healthy muscle. It truly requires no more study.
This post was edited on 5/24/14 at 11:42 pm
Posted by Come2Conquer
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Member since Sep 2004
4794 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:45 pm to
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So just be smart, exercise enough, and eat some of the things that make life great.


Part of being "smart" is reading & parsing the countless evidence that the prime driver in the U.S.'s obesity epidemic has been the "low/no-fat" craze.

Cholesterol is absolutely misunderstood in this country and people STILL believe that fat content in the food they eat will be converted to fat in their bodies...when the truth is that dietary fat (animal fat, fat from nuts, etc.) will actually spur your body to efficiently burn the fat you already have stored.
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
3955 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:47 pm to
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On topic: what's important is that adults drinking whole over skim are making a damn poor choice. Paint it any way you want to, saturated fat is saturated fat. It's like saying studies have proven diet coke can increase appetite, so I suppose drinking coke is a better alternative.


Well....considering that recent two meta-analyses of studies pertaining to saturated fat and heart disease found no link to the amount of saturated fat consumed and a person's risk for CVD. LINK

Also, considering that diet sodas are linked to an increased risk of weight gain, type 2 diabetes, and and metabolic syndrome......you could make an argument for drinking regular soda over diet varieties. LINK

Posted by Come2Conquer
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
4794 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:50 pm to
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Worthless

It's really simple. We already know everything we need to know about non health-related obesity. Eat well, get enough exercise to burn off what you eat, build healthy muscle. It truly requires no more study.


Umm...apparently it does require more study.

You're not gonna' exercise enough in a day to burn off what you eat unless A)you're running marathons or B)you're eating at a severe deficit. There's plenty of evidence to substantiate that exercise (either anaerobic/aerobic) doesn't burn a ton of calories unless it's done for hours upon hours.

How you eat controls what size you are. Exercise simply shapes that size.
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:52 pm to
I drink it when I can't find enough breast milk
Posted by Mohamed Ali
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:53 pm to
Almond milk ftw
Posted by Come2Conquer
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
4794 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:53 pm to
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Almond milk ftw


Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31963 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:58 pm to
If we are talking about a fat target group and their consumption of skim milk, you shouldn't be surprised to find out they do much worse than not drink whole milk.

If the baseline is the non-obese folks, them avoiding whole milk for a fat free option is better regardless of what a study targeting obese people says.

And for the UK study, the study simply states that for the relatively modest sample size, they can't draw any firm conclusions with sat fat and CVD........citing random studies doesn't make the point valid.
Posted by League Champs
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Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 3:13 pm to
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If we are talking about a fat target group

It wasnt a fat target group. It was 11,000 kids

Whole milk drinkers were slimmer
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25240 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 3:27 pm to
You should see what raw milk does for the body vs pasteurized.

Is agree though, whole milk or no milk.
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20268 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 4:07 pm to
Genetics > diet imo
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
3955 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 5:16 pm to
So it's genetic differences in population that explains this?:[

It seems we are evolving rapidly:
This post was edited on 5/25/14 at 5:21 pm
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