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re: Net Neutrality -- What You Need To Know
Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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yes, there is. for example, the model where poor people get cheaper, less open internet. that is rarely discussed
It is rarely discussed because it has little impact on the discussion. It is one level of one example of tiered internet plans. Is this your attempt at contriving an example of how the elimination of net neutrality could be "good"?
quote:And there are a million ways that allowing ISPs to shape traffic as they see fit are bad for consumers, and we have yet to hear one valid way that it can be good.
we are talking about the effects and company policies that emerge
quote:I am not shifting the argument, I am framing the argument in a way that you might be able to understand. Apparently, it still isn't working. Understanding the difference between TV and the internet is vital to understanding why we can't allow ISPs to turn the internet into TV.
again, you're shifting the argument. comparing how tv and the internet have been implemented is irrelevant
quote:It's not about "cost", it's about "pricing" via anti-competitive practices.
i doubt it will become filtered, as much as the filterless internet will just cost more. in theory, this is only an argument about cost
quote:A success for ISPs, no doubt, but you continue to ignore the obvious consequences of making it perfectly legal for an ISP to degrade or cut off access to Netflix, making the ISP's own video on demand offering more attractive. Or any number of similar business decisions that would be perfectly legal, but decidedly anti-consumer.
if power users pay more, middle users make choices based on cost/tiers, and poor people get more access to cheap internet, that can easily be argued to be a success.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 2:08 pm to Korkstand
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It is one level of one example of tiered internet plans. Is this your attempt at contriving an example of how the elimination of net neutrality could be "good"?
obviously. this may become widely popular for people we don't know how consumers will react to these choices
but it's very likely that a "NetZero" plan will be offered, which will be VERY good for poor people
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It's not about "cost", it's about "pricing"
pricing = cost to consumers
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via anti-competitive practices.
so companies contracting with each other with competition in mind = anti-competitive?
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A success for ISPs, no doubt, but you continue to ignore the obvious consequences of making it perfectly legal for an ISP to degrade or cut off access to Netflix, making the ISP's own video on demand offering more attractive.
we all know the "worst case scenario". you don't have to repeat it as every response to every argument
this is a possible outcome, but not guaranteed by any means.
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but decidedly anti-consumer.
this is all in the eye of the beholder
This post was edited on 5/19/14 at 2:09 pm
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