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re: The fetish of full employment- Henry Hazlitt vs. Ezra Klein

Posted on 5/19/14 at 5:12 pm to
Posted by Hawkeye95
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 5:12 pm to
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If he was required reading, democrats would be out of power. His take down of public work projects is brilliant. He writes for the layman, too.

republicans are just as big proponents of keynsian economics as democrats. I do agree if the public understand the problems with the keynsian model (which keynes duly noted), they would not support our current spending model.

But keynsian economics has 70 years of working for us. its failures are a failure of applying it correctly, more so than the theory itself.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 5:14 pm to
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republicans are just as big proponents of keynsian economics as democrats.
Absolutely. Republican support for Military expenditures is a form of Keynesian thinking.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 5:17 pm to
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its failures are a failure of applying it correctly,

of course. one of the 2 arguments for the failure of government: (1) we didn't use enough money or (2) it wasn't implemented correctly

if you want to see why keneysian economics fails, just look at california in 2007-2008 and how it handled it's public unions. in a time of economic prosperity, it was supposed to cut government spending, right? what did it do? increased public spending, so that public workers could "compete" with the free market's wages, benefits, etc.

not only did this ignore keynes, but it also creates a double-fricking once the cool off happens, as the public is left with new public obligations, only born out of a temporary increase in economic activity.

while in the objective and in hindsight, california looks ridiculous, due to the very nature of politics, it was SOP during that time period
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 5:21 pm to
Keynesian economics: taking water from the deep end of a pool and pouring it in the other end, and expecting the water level to rise.
Posted by Rawdawgs
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 6:50 pm to
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But keynsian economics has 70 years of working for us. its failures are a failure of applying it correctly, more so than the theory itself.


Not really. The only reason it "works" is because all governments like to spend as much as possible. Keynsian thinking legitimizes spending more than your citizenry will pay in taxes. It is a form of involuntary taxation.
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