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re: Aaron Hernandez and the death penalty - semi updated OP

Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:54 am to
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:54 am to
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In truth, I don't think people give a shite about murder and rape if the people being murdered and raped are in circles or communities where it isn't that uncommon.


I definitely agree with you on this



I guess I don't see more headlines about Sterling = more public outrage about it. When someone like Lebron speaks out about Sterling, it's naturally going to create headlines and more attention because he's a celebrity, but I don't think that means the general public is more upset about it. There is also some suspense involved with Sterling as to what will happen, whereas most people have pretty much accepted Hernandez is guilty and wrote it off.

Now if Sterling is allowed to keep the franchise and they aren't able to force the sale? No doubt the public outrage will far exceed anything with Hernandez. I just think if you polled people right now on which situation upset them more the majority would answer Hernandez. At least I hope so, now I'm starting to doubt myself
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 8:55 am
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 9:00 am to
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Now if Sterling is allowed to keep the franchise and they aren't able to force the sale? No doubt the public outrage will far exceed anything with Hernandez. I just think if you polled people right now on which situation upset them more the majority would answer Hernandez. At least I hope so, now I'm starting to doubt myself



You're probably right. I think the outrage is fake on either side.

I mean, I'll admit I don't really care about Hernandez. We're jaded as a society, so some gang member killing some people who hang out with gang members doesn't mean anything to me. It probably should, but it doesn't. So we'll all vote "yes" to moral outrage, but we don't really care.

As for Sterling, people like you and I probably don't care about that either. What some old man says to his hooker girlfriend is pure entertainment. I feel no need as a white dude to say "Hey that guy is racist, unlike me, because I like black people!" but a lot of white morons are doing that, which drives the media coverage (and the media has their own agenda in situations like this). But I don't even think the liberal "outrage" from the white community is real either.

In sum, I think you're right more people would vote against Hernandez. But the outcry is louder with Sterling. And if we assess why the outcry is louder, the obvious conclusion is because the stigma of racism is so strong in this country that people feel the need to feign outrage against racists. People feel more inclined to speak out against racism than murder, which is probably screwed up.
Posted by 632627
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Member since Dec 2011
12856 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 9:05 am to
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I guess I don't see more headlines about Sterling = more public outrage about it. When someone like Lebron speaks out about Sterling, it's naturally going to create headlines and more attention because he's a celebrity, but I don't think that means the general public is more upset about it. There is also some suspense involved with Sterling as to what will happen, whereas most people have pretty much accepted Hernandez is guilty and wrote it off.


The aaron hernandez story was huge when it first broke, lets not act like it wasn't.

The sterling situation is different for many reasons. It's gotten lots of airtime because it brings up other talking points such as the state of racism in our country, our right to privacy, etc. As somebody mentioned before, aaron hernandez killed people, it's pretty black and white. With sterling, there are shades of grey as there are people defending his right to his own opinion and that he shouldn't lose his team. Also you have morons like Lebron butting in that generates headlines as well.

It's 2 completely different situations, but the Sterling issue is unique as it generates lots of different commentary on multiple matters, whereas Hernandez story was pretty cut and dry.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36715 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 9:39 am to
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I just think if you polled people right now on which situation upset them more the majority would answer Hernandez. At least I hope so, now I'm starting to doubt myself


I think you put way too much faith in the average Joe.

I'd bet the vast majority of people in this country have no idea Hernandez was just charged with two more murders.
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