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Justice Steven's proposed 6 amendments to the constitution

Posted on 5/2/14 at 7:51 am
Posted by samson'sseed
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 7:51 am
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He wants to end gerrymandering and political bribery protected under free speech. He wants to rewrite the 2nd amendment for clarity.

I agree with his version of the 2nd amendment. The original 2nd amendment is ambiguous and poorly written and therefore has been badly misinterpeted.

I don't agree that the death penalty is cruel and unusual.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 7:52 am to
Is he running for congress?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 7:54 am to
He should just call for erasing state boundaries while he's at it.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 7:55 am to

His rationale for the Second Amendment change doesn't make sense to me. Why would they include a "right" limited to soldiers bearing arms? It would seem purely superfluous.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 7:55 am to
The Supreme Court is already in the make law mode anyways. Proposals are fine as long as those do not affect the future interpretations of existing law.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 7:58 am to
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He wants to end gerrymandering

why is he so racist?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:03 am to
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He wants to end gerrymandering
Minorities wont like that.

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bribery protected under free speech
Unnecessary because it's not now.

Gotta love number 1. Might as well eliminate states altogether. That he can't foresee why this could end up poorly is an indictment upon his intellect.

His militia amendment is just downright hilarious. Easily the dumbest one of them all.

One could just as easily rename this list and call it "things this fricking idiot already thinks are IN the constitution but wants to spell out".
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:04 am to
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His rationale for the Second Amendment change doesn't make sense to me. Why would they include a "right" limited to soldiers bearing arms? It would seem purely superfluous.



If you read the list as hims proposing Amendments, then it's nonsense.

If you understand the list to be what it really is, it makes more sense I suppose.

This list is really how the man already determined his rulings. He isn't telling us he thinks this should be added. He's telling you what he already thinks is there and that he ruled based upon this for the duration of his career.

Basically, he's telling you how meaningless ANY constitution is as long as someone like him can get on the court.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
99891 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:06 am to
The Supreme Court decision on the interpretation of the 2nd has already been decided and rarely do they bring up a case after a decision is made
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:06 am to
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He wants to end gerrymandering


Bye bye Republican party.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55374 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:08 am to
I agree with the 2nd amendment revision. End gerrymandering is OK. Get rid of state boundaries I have said that for years. No need for states
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109372 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:08 am to
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If you read the list as hims proposing Amendments, then it's nonsense.

If you understand the list to be what it really is, it makes more sense I suppose.

This list is really how the man already determined his rulings. He isn't telling us he thinks this should be added. He's telling you what he already thinks is there and that he ruled based upon this for the duration of his career.

Basically, he's telling you how meaningless ANY constitution is as long as someone like him can get on the court.


This is sort of why I was speaking to his rationale. He actually thinks he can rectify his position from a historical perspective of the framers' intent, but if you think about it, it is just completely nonsensical that they would include a "right" for such a purpose.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:08 am to
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Bye bye Republican party.

I think it hilarious that there are apparently people walking this Earth who must be too young or too poorly educated to know that gerrymandering was created in the first place to guarantee black seats in congress. Now it's a "Republican" thing!!
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:08 am to
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I agree with the 2nd amendment revision. End gerrymandering is OK. Get rid of state boundaries I have said that for years. No need for states

Yes, but you'd probably all good with a King as long as he stole from the right people.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464187 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:09 am to
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Bye bye Republican party.

it would be interesting

but minority representation would be drastically affected. that's why most gerrymandering occurs

who benefits? white republicans surrounding those areas of minority concentration. just look at Louisiana
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
27952 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:10 am to
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I think


Stopped right there. Google republican house district maps.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:11 am to
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He actually thinks he can rectify his position from a historical perspective of the framers' intent, but if you think about it, it is just completely nonsensical that they would include a "right" for such a purpose.
Yep. By definition, anyone IN the militia would be Armed and expected to be armed. Why on Earth would you even need to articulate that as a right. No one articulates a "right" to something that literally NO ONE would even attempt to prevent. That would make for one seriously long constitution.
Posted by TROLA
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Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:12 am to
His second amendment proposal is crap and absolutely doesn't rely on the original intent..

As for the campaign finance amendment.. I'm not opposed to something to curtail the issue but the usage of the word
"reasonable" just sets itself up for a challenge. You would think a Supreme Court justice would want solidity to a constitutional amendment.. Especially considering he wants it in other amendments.

This post was edited on 5/2/14 at 8:15 am
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:12 am to
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Stopped right there. Google republican house district maps.

I didn't say there aren't any hilarious Repub districts. I'm amused that you don't know what started it all.

And, as has been pointed out, an elimination of gerrymandering would effectively kill the Congressional Black caucus.

I mean, you do know that don't you?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:14 am to
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I'm not opposed to something to curtail the issue but the usage of the word
"reasonable" just sets itself up for a challenge. You would think a Supreme Court justice would want to solidity to a constitutional amendment.. Especially considering he wants it in other amendments.



Actually, no, I would fully expect a Supreme Court justice to be THRILLED with an ambiguous word like "reasonable". It basically puts POWER in the hands of the court and completely removes it from the legislature because the court gets to decide what "reasonable" means.
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