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Marvel Movies and the "Fake Out" Deaths (Spoilers)

Posted on 4/27/14 at 1:06 am
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 1:06 am
Am I the only one jaded by this? It has happened in the Avengers with Coulson, Thor 2 with Loki, Captain America 2 with Fury, and Iron Man 3 with Pepper. The first time it happened, I fell for it and it really added emotional weight to the scene. After being burned one too many times, I don't feel the way the producers obviously intended me to feel as I know the character isn't really going to die. One of the reasons shows like Lost and Oz were such good shows was because they weren't afraid to kill off their most popular characters and replace them with just as good talent. It also made those scenes more impactful. I wish these movies would do the same.
Posted by ligerbait
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2005
3125 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 1:12 am to
Coulson is still dead in the Marvel movie universe right? I mean I know he's on the show but does that really count?
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31707 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 2:26 am to
I agree to extent


I wish they would have left Coulson dead and Fury but it is what it is. You should never expect a hero or villain in the MCU to stay dead for very long it's just the way it is
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37529 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 7:06 am to
quote:

Am I the only one jaded by this? It has happened in the Avengers with Coulson, Thor 2 with Loki, Captain America 2 with Fury, and Iron Man 3 with Pepper. The first time it happened, I fell for it and it really added emotional weight to the scene. After being burned one too many times, I don't feel the way the producers obviously intended me to feel as I know the character isn't really going to die. One of the reasons shows like Lost and Oz were such good shows was because they weren't afraid to kill off their most popular characters and replace them with just as good talent. It also made those scenes more impactful. I wish these movies would do the same.


I can understand, but seeing as the films are very much based off of comic books, they'll remain playing by CB rules, and that means no one is ever truly dead. Except for maybe poor Laufi.

I mean, there's a weakness to that in that death is wasted a bit, and I might wish them to take some chances on this, but that's hard to do.

I THINK we'll see something different after they've established MCU rules in full, simply because film is going to necessitate a change in approach. I mean, they can draw Tony Stark in the comic books forever, he obviously doesn't die. But the MCU needs an Iron Man and RDJ literally can't play him for 20 years.

I hope they are building towards either a large wipe of characters; maybe in A4 or A5 they do a time altering story and just wipe everyone, start from scratch. OR they'll let characters take over for extended periods of time a la "Iron Man 4: War Machine." That one might be a tough sell, but if you get the right people, it's possible.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37529 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 9:41 am to
Also, I meant to follow-up with this:

The SHIELD situation from The Winter Soldier/Agents of SHIELD, is indicative that they are willing to take some chances. Maybe it wasn't a "death" in the classic sense, but it was a big risky change. They effectively destroyed something they've built up over 7 movies and a show.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24944 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:11 pm to
Yeah it's pretty shitty and one of the things that made me stop reading comics.
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