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re: Snowden and Putin really throwing it down on us now.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:30 am to DByrd2
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:30 am to DByrd2
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Sure increased vulnerability COULD result in loss of life. It didn't take a Snowden to create a vulnerability for 9/11 did it? No. OKC Bombing? Nope. Pearl Harbor? Negative. Bad things will always happen. This legislation, as most legislation these days, passed because someone thought they could stop terroristic activities, regardless of group affiliations.
Terrible argument. You're asserting that any steps to reduce bad things are a waste of time because "bad things always happen?"
Do you have a lock on your house and car door? Alarm system?
You take all possible steps to protect yourself. If you (and Snowden) want to fight handicapped fine, but you don't get to make the decision for me.
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 11:32 am
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Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:33 am to Oenophile Brah
quote:I would argue that you are arguing the precise opposite of that extreme when you say revealing certain things may cost lives and therefore, don't reveal it.
Terrible argument. You're asserting that any steps to reduce bad things is a waste of time because bad things always happen?
The net result of that argument is that ANYTHING that is done is OK as long as it saves lives. You may knee jerk think that makes sense but I can come up with a LOT of ways to save lives that you wouldn't think were very ok.
quote:Um. No. I don't and neither do you. ALL possible steps aren't on the table. At least I sure as frick hope not.
You take all possible steps to protect yourself.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:59 am to Oenophile Brah
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Terrible argument. You're asserting that any steps to reduce bad things are a waste of time because "bad things always happen?"
Do you have a lock on your house and car door? Alarm system?
You take all possible steps to protect yourself. If you (and Snowden) want to fight handicapped fine, but you don't get to make the decision for me.
Not at all what I am asserting. I am asserting that you don't go beyond legal documents and inherent rights, infringing upon the liberty of the people, to stop ALL OCCURRENCES of something that is reasonably and inevitably going to happen regardless of the steps you take. There are alternate ways to gain control of a majority of happenings before you jump in and take oppressive actions (which the NSA actions in question are absolutely oppressive in nature.)
My deadbolt and car alarm don't house any of my personal conversations or Personally Identifiable Information as addressed in the Privacy Act of 1974, another law that it is safe to assume is being violated because there is no way, with all the information they are "collecting" that they can label all of it properly.
And, yet again, no, I don't take all measures to protect myself. I take those measures that are legal and readily available for me to take. I could give two fricks less who you support in this debate, because that is exactly what this is, a debate. What we say to each other will have no bearing on the other's life. I am not forcing my opinion on anyone, I am expressing mine. A right that I am still (as of today, at least) free to exercise.
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