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re: Spinoff: Do you believe?
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:00 pm to The First Cut
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:00 pm to The First Cut
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To what? There are no facts to support your theory. Someone is ignorant because they don't subscribe to an opinion?
Do you honestly believe the only life forms, however complex, exist only here on earth?
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 9:01 pm
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:01 pm to TH03
Like I said, HUGE.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:05 pm to VetteGuy
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Relax and get a latte' with the girls.
You seem stressed.
No life, we're it. No UFOs, no alien overlords.
Don't drink lattes. Sorry. Coffee and whisky. No alien overlords either but to assume we are it is naive at best. In fact it's laughable. By no means do I believe the tin foil hats that say we've been visited, ancient alien crap or aliens walk amongst us but to believe we are the only biological life form is silly.
ETA:
But,
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:06 pm to The Next
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State your case for or against. Personally, I fall into the camp of believing that there is life outside of our own world. I think the line from Contact about sums it up. With as big as the universe is and if we are the only living beings in it, it sure seems like a big waste of space (pun intended). That and it's very likely that some of these other beings are more advanced technologically than us. I do not subscribe to the tin foil hat conspiracy theories, however. Maybe some of the Ancient Alien type stuff where they have already visited but the government coverup type stuff is just too out there for me.
Given the size of the universe and the projected habitability of several known worlds, I believe it likely that "life" exists outside of Earth. Keep in mind that bacteria qualify as life. The chances that some planet/moon/spacecraft is harboring complex beings capable of space exploration (or capable of even pondering these questions) is substantially less. It's tough to quantify. There have been instances in the history of life on Earth where it could have easily ceased to exist. It will certainly cease to exist sometime between now and when the sun begins to shift phases. There's no guarantee that there is intelligent life in the universe "right now"--even accounting for what we can call star or interstellar time and the extraordinary distances separating us from other systems, sections of the Milky Way, and (esp) other galaxies and galaxy clusters.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:08 pm to The Next
I am 99.9999999% positive there is life on other places than Earth.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:08 pm to drewnbrla
Since there are more planets than grains of sand on the earth (I think) the odds are in favor of life elsewhere.
Anything that knows how to travel the vast distances to get here had better be benevolent because they would be able to squash us like bugs. If there is advanced life out there we probably aren't significant enough to matter, just of a zillion inconsequential specks.
Anything that knows how to travel the vast distances to get here had better be benevolent because they would be able to squash us like bugs. If there is advanced life out there we probably aren't significant enough to matter, just of a zillion inconsequential specks.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:09 pm to The Next
no
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:11 pm to gthog61
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If there is advanced life out there we probably aren't significant enough to matter, just of a zillion inconsequential specks.
They won't contact us until we achieve the ability to travel at warp speed. To do so before would be in direct violation of the Prime Directive.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:12 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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They won't contact us until we achieve the ability to travel at warp speed. To do so before would be in direct violation of the Prime Directive.
And violation of intergalactic laws and ethics.
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:14 pm to The Next
I believe that we are the aliens.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:14 pm to The Next
It's a near statistical impossibility that some form of life does not exist somewhere in the vastness of space which we cannot even wrap our minds around.
Intelligent life is another discussion. Personally, I think there very well could be some out there. That's not to say they've been here before, have the technology to travel here, or even know of our existence...I just think with the quadrillion or so stars out that it's possible that sentient life did evolve, not unlike it did here.
Intelligent life is another discussion. Personally, I think there very well could be some out there. That's not to say they've been here before, have the technology to travel here, or even know of our existence...I just think with the quadrillion or so stars out that it's possible that sentient life did evolve, not unlike it did here.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:18 pm to Starchild
Well, if Faster than light travel really is against the laws of physics, then we'll never know about them and they'll never know about us.
Unless they want to travel the galaxy for thousands of years and just live on space ships.
Unless they want to travel the galaxy for thousands of years and just live on space ships.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:20 pm to StickyFingaz
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There is life... They have not been here
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:21 pm to The Next
It is an almost mathematic certainty that there is life out there in the cosmos besides us. It is downright narcissism to believe otherwise.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:22 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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if Faster than light travel really is against the laws of physics, then we'll never know about them and they'll never know about us.
Time bends near the speed of light. If travel at .99 the speed of light were achieved, interstellar travel within a human lifespan could theoretically be achieved.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:23 pm to drewnbrla
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Do you honestly believe the only life forms, however complex, exist only here on earth?
Do you honestly believe that the size of the universe is proof of other life?
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:24 pm to OMLandshark
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It is an almost mathematic certainty that there is life out there in the cosmos besides us. It is downright narcissism to believe otherwise.
Again, as I and a couple of posters have pointed out, you're absolutely right. But the bacteria helping to turn your buffalo wild wings into shite qualify as life. The odds that there are intelligent or even complex sentient beings at, near, or beyond our state of advancement are substantially lower.
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:26 pm to The First Cut
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To what? There are no facts to support your theory. Someone is ignorant because they don't subscribe to an opinion?
We know there was at one point two planets in our own solar system with flowing rivers, and we also know of a moon with an ocean and another one with seas of methane, which could also support life. And that's just within our own solar system. There are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand of all the beaches in the world. It is a basic mathematic certainty, and to believe otherwise is either narcissism, complete ignorance, or stupidity.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:29 pm to OMLandshark
Vastness and unfounded claims if narcissism are not proof of other life. In your example of flowing rivers in our own solar system, was life found.
I'm not saying it's not possible that life exists. All I am saying is that "the universe is big" is an incredibly weak argument to offer as "proof".
I'm not saying it's not possible that life exists. All I am saying is that "the universe is big" is an incredibly weak argument to offer as "proof".
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:30 pm to Navytiger74
We just don't know enough right now.
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