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re: Its official U of Alabama is racist
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:26 am to NC_Tigah
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:26 am to NC_Tigah
Really? On a COLLEGE campus we cannot tolerate 'diversity' unless it is homogenized?
Black university students should be able to shrug this one off. Look, I am all for trying to persuade them to change the policy. But, not by force or coercive shaming.
If the group holds a car was as a fund raiser ( open to public) andsays " We only wash white ppeople's cars", then there is a rightful complaint and the school admin should get involved and suspend, etc.
But, for the love of Gawd, lets try to allow college campuses to have groups that are diverse ( including private groups of single trait composition)
The Mensa Club should be allowed to exclude dullards, etc.
We can take this.
Black university students should be able to shrug this one off. Look, I am all for trying to persuade them to change the policy. But, not by force or coercive shaming.
If the group holds a car was as a fund raiser ( open to public) andsays " We only wash white ppeople's cars", then there is a rightful complaint and the school admin should get involved and suspend, etc.
But, for the love of Gawd, lets try to allow college campuses to have groups that are diverse ( including private groups of single trait composition)
The Mensa Club should be allowed to exclude dullards, etc.
We can take this.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:32 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Look, I am all for trying to persuade them to change the policy. But, not by force or coercive shaming.
Freedom of association should work both ways, no question.
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If the group holds a car was as a fund raiser ( open to public) andsays " We only wash white people's cars", then there is a rightful complaint and the school admin should get involved and suspend, etc.
Right - while I'm all for an ignorant person (with his own money on the line, not using public property, mind you), saying, "We prefer white customers" - if they stop short of actual refusal - I can live that that (although they would rightfully be a laughingstock).
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But, for the love of Gawd, lets try to allow college campuses to have groups that are diverse ( including private groups of single trait composition)
Something gets lost in this drive for diversity - while an all black organization is not only tolerated, it is encouraged (and, I maintain that a quasi-public organization like the Congressional Black Caucus should be disbanded) - and I, for one, agree that such organizations should be allowed under the right of freedom of association.
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The Mensa Club should be allowed to exclude dullards, etc.
There are many obvious examples, and this is an excellent one.
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We can take this.
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BlackHelicopterPilot
Spot on, as usual.
This post was edited on 3/29/14 at 10:35 am
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:34 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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coercive shaming
I think shaming is a very effective, non govt way of changing racist attitudes. Whats your beef with it?
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:35 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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How easily someone is offended is directly proportional to how stupid they are!
Sums up OP starting this thread.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 11:03 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:Yet, they should not have to.
Black university students should be able to shrug this one off.
The actions in this case are neither right, nor are they in the best interest of the university. UA is supposedly an educational environment. White kids may have a "right" to act badly. But the University has a responsibility to help them understand actions have consequences. The latter is a valuable life lesson.
Application: "Union workers have the RIGHT to strike." When they do, and the company goes belly up, they find out far too late that exercising a right isn't necessarily the best decision.
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