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Goodwin Return?

Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:54 am
Posted by CharethCutestory
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:54 am
From Rotoworld:


The Saints could pursue free agent C Jonathan Goodwin if fellow free agent Brian de la Puente signs elsewhere.

The Redskins and Giants have already shown interest in de la Puente, our No. 2 available center prior to free agency opening. Goodwin would be a downgrade, but he could step right in as a starter after starting 47 games for the Saints and making one Pro Bowl between 2006-10. The 35-year-old would be a bridge to the future at the center spot.

I would be for such a move.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:56 am to
For one year, at most.
Posted by mm2316
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Aug 2010
6942 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:58 am to
It would make a lot of sense for both sides. Sign him, draft a Center, and hope the rookie Center can take over next year.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29540 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:59 am to
Would be more than okay with Goodwin anchoring the line for one year while a promising rookie develops behind him.

Goodwin truly was underrated when he was with us, and people (like me) thought we could easily replace him. Olin Kreutz and then DLP (though he played well for a little while) proved me dead wrong.
Posted by Tigeralltheway
Member since Jan 2014
2747 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:00 am to
Love this! Dudes instagram is filled with Saints pictures
Posted by mm2316
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Aug 2010
6942 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:00 am to
I know everyone isn't crazy about PFF, but for reference, Goodwin graded out at +5.8 for 2013, and DLP graded out at 4.0.


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This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 9:01 am
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28019 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:08 am to
quote:

I know everyone isn't crazy about PFF



shhhhh. you will anger blues
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
73777 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:09 am to
DLP seems to rank higher in pass protection and Goody seems to rank higher in road grading.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:11 am to
That's what we need. I want to bash people this year. I want them to hurt after they play us.
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:21 am to
quote:

shhhhh. you will anger blues

nah, I don't hold them in any special regard. Another tool to use. I always compare their numbers to what my own eyeball test sez. They're good for quantifying some aspects of the game that aren't refelcted in common stats.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:24 am to
quote:

I know everyone isn't crazy about PFF
I hate it
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:26 am to
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10082 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:32 am to
Would be a good signing IMO. I think the common consensus is that DLP was largely helped by guard play. Funny he started struggling when Evans started playing hurt.
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12391 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:59 am to
obviously rotoworld reads my posts.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
7005 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:03 am to
quote:

Goodwin truly was underrated when he was with us, and people (like me) thought we could easily replace him. Olin Kreutz and then DLP (though he played well for a little while) proved me dead wrong.


Goodwin was never underrated by anyone who understands the center position, and at that time I believed letting him go was a huge mistake. I did think Kreutz would be better than he was with us. It also takes time for offensive lines to really learn to play as a single unit. Sometimes it's better to just pay a little more to keep a player or endure a par or sub-par player (for the right price) in order to keep continuity on the line.

Tampering with your O-line every season is akin to getting plastic surgery every year. It can either make you look infinitely young or like an abomination.
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 10:04 am
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28019 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:57 am to
quote:

Another tool to use



and that's all it should be. some people here hold them up to be the end all of player data. last off season the Steelers were ripping them for giving The Twin a bad grade for 2012. They stated something along the effect of these are guys who've never played football sitting around judging guys who do.

I don't dislike them, but I don't think everything they state is entirely accurate. their opinions are highly injected in their numbers since it is based off of observation
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:12 am to
Not even a blip of any Center activity leads me to believe it will be Lelito + a 2nd to 4th Rd drafted center. I really think there are 6 draftable centers that would be an immediate upgrade over dlP.
Posted by CharethCutestory
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2014
48 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:33 am to
Given that not one center, except DLP's 2 recent visits, are seemingly getting a sniff, I think we are just waiting to fill other holes.

I do expect a vet C, like Goodwin, to be signed and "earn" a spot in TC with Lelito and a rookie.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28019 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Lelito + a 2nd to 4th Rd drafted center


I see this too. From past readings it seems they like Lelito going forward. We seem to be the ones pushing for signing someone. If Goodwin were to return, I think it would be as a reserve and potential replacement if Lelito fails. Would be open competition in camp basically.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
73777 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:39 am to
That the Saints are not sweating DLP leaving and have not picked one up in FA would strongly suggest the answer is already in the building.
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