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re: Woman kills drunk firefighter trying to enter her home; thinks its his home

Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:41 am to
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
78255 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:41 am to
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zero blame should be placed on the woman.



THIS !!!!!

You go out and get drunk and whatever happens is on you.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
64297 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:41 am to
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bullshite....

zero blame should be placed on the woman.

I didn't say she should be blamed or even charged. I said it could have been avoided had she identified her attacker.

Reading comprehension and not jumping to conclusions helps.
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
51355 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:41 am to
quote:

A Houston firefighter is dead after a woman who opened fire says that the firefighter was trying to break into her Montgomery County home.


ISWTDT
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42584 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:42 am to
Lulz. You're dumb to gun laws. A home owner has every right to kill someone breaking into their home. The article states she warned him she had a gun. She did everything right, and will not face charges.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42584 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:43 am to
So, at night, she should've invited him in, and then decide if she should shoot him? GTFO.
Posted by JAXTiger16
TBD
Member since Apr 2013
2234 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:44 am to
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him being a firefighter has nothing to do with the story...
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38878 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:45 am to
Being drunk is no excuse and being a fire fighter has nothing to do with the story.

The guy was attempting to gain entry into a place that was not his. That would be called breaking and entering had she not been there to stop his actions.

Tough lesson, but this is why you don't go get so drunk you can not recognize your own house.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
64297 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:45 am to
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So, at night, she should've invited him in, and then decide if she should shoot him? GTFO.

Right. Because that's the only way to identify someone. To invite them in. What if it had been a relative, like a son or daughter checking on her? I'm not saying fix the fricker coffee. I'm saying as a gun owner, there is no way I would discharge my firearm unless I was absolutely sure what I was shooting.

ETA: And again I will say, she should not be charged as she was within her rights. I'm only saying it was a poor choice. Legal, but a poor choice.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 11:46 am
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:47 am to
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I'm saying as a gun owner, there is no way I would discharge my firearm unless I was absolutely sure what I was shooting.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42584 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:48 am to
Did you read the article? She tried to get the person to identify himself. Come to my house and try the same thing.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38878 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:48 am to
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she was within her rights. I'm only saying it was a poor choice.


Just for debate, lets assume granny had a snub nose 5 shot .38. What if she did as you were saying and instead of a firefighter, it was 7 thugs ready to clean her out?
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
64297 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:49 am to
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What if she did as you were saying and instead of a firefighter, it was 7 thugs ready to clean her out?

You still don't shoot what you can't see.
Posted by illuminatic
Manipulating politicans&rappers
Member since Sep 2012
6963 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:50 am to
This is the OT. The person with the gun is always right unless it's a cop.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 11:51 am
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:50 am to
quote:

Come to my house and try the same thing.


Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63572 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:51 am to
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What if it had been a relative, like a son or daughter checking on her?


Then they would have said "Mom, it's me!" When she said to leave and that she had a gun and would shoot.

She had no obligation to wait for the person to enter her home before firing. As soon as her warnings were ignored and attempted entry persisted, she was A) within her rights (stipulated) and B) using sound judgement to fire her weapon (the debate).

I would want my wife to do the same thing if she was home alone.
Posted by arowana
Metairie
Member since Aug 2007
1732 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:52 am to
Bladerunner did the same thing
Posted by mkibod1
South of the Donna Dixon Line
Member since Jan 2011
4744 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:52 am to
If the lady felt threatened, which she did, and she gave multiple verbal warnings, what more should she have done? I don't really see what she did that is so wrong... The guy was breaking and entering a property that was not his and she gave him more than one warning. I would do the same if some jackass would have ignored my warnings and proceeded to gain entry like a bull. He could have responded at any point, but kept at it with no response. Would you prefer her to take the Andrew Jackson "Wait till you see the whites of their eyes" before shooting method? Most times that is too late my friends...
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 11:53 am
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38878 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:53 am to
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You still don't shoot what you can't see.


I agree, but that is more of a hunting rule.

This is an old lady who feared for her life, someones was in fact jiggling her handle and ignoring her repeated warnings.

Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42584 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:54 am to
Exactly. Most hand guns will not stop an intruder in his tracks, so stopping them before they make entry is the only way to insure your safety.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 11:55 am
Posted by Beefherinthequeefer
;)
Member since Jan 2008
37689 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:55 am to
Did you ever want to shoot that ghost?
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