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re: Offical Putin vs Obama Scorecard
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:47 am to constant cough
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:47 am to constant cough
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You're money won't be worth much
Yeah, sure.
Feel free to exchange your US dollars for Russian rubles if you're so confident that Russia is the victor.
The dollar buys you 20% more Russian rubles now than it did a year ago.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 10:52 am
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:50 am to DEANintheYAY
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only president of Russia, a has been of a country
Its reported Russia has nearly 9,000 nukes. Kind of gives them some relevance.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:57 am to wilfont
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Its reported Russia has nearly 9,000 nukes. Kind of gives them some relevance.
Not sure having something that you won't use translates to relevance. How many does the US have?
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:00 am to DEANintheYAY
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Not sure having something that you won't use translates to relevance
In my opinion any nation with nukes has global standing.
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How many does the US have?
I believe the U.S. has less than Russia's number. Russia has roughly half of the planet's total number of nukes.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:02 am to DEANintheYAY
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Not sure having something that you won't use translates to relevance.
It use to be called "walking softly and carrying a big stick."
What Putin has done is called "kicking up the leaves and rattling the cage."
It is relevant.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:11 am to constant cough
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Not really. At that point Bush was a lame duck president and the whole world knew it. It was just a couple of months before the presidential election and Bush wasn't going to make himself the issue with a third war. Putin knew that and he also knew what we knew that Obama was likely to win and was nothing but an American hating community organizer.
seriously? Some of you people try sooooo hard to put shite on Obama. The funny thing is you really dont have to try this hard.
Look. Putin doesnt give a shite who the POTUS is. NO ONE is going to do a damn thing about a small non-NATO piece of land being invaded right on Russia's border, and Putin knows it.
Now if Putin screws with a NATO country, then yes hes basically calling the US a paper tiger.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:25 am to constant cough
Barry wins the mom jeans category.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:30 am to constant cough
Can we trade leaders?
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:31 am to BobBoucher
Hey man, if it's any consolation, I agree with your statement.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:35 pm to sugar71
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Obama vowed to track down & kill the man who actually killed thousands of Americans
And I'm sure in your simple little race-obsessed mind, he actually pulled the trigger himself.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:47 pm to Quidam65
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Can we trade leaders?
So you just aren't mentally challenged when it comes to baseball I see. Trade leaders?? You for real Quidam??
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:49 pm to Quidam65
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Can we trade leaders?
Wait, are you saying you would prefer Putin?
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:54 pm to idlewatcher
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explain what this clown has actually accomplished in office.
I'm no lib but he's basically killed NASA except for the Muslim outreach portion to make them feel better about themselves. That's NASA's job 1 now, remember?
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:57 pm to DEANintheYAY
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while Obama--love or hate him--is still President of America...a far superior country by almost any measure. THAT is what matters.
America is NOT a superior country because of Obama...so your argument fails. Putin has done some good for his country, and Obama has been an abject failure both domestically and internationally by any measure conceivable.
Why you still support this failure in the WH is beyond me.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 1:00 pm to DEANintheYAY
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Not sure having something that you won't use translates to relevance
Putin shuts off the gas...Europe goes dark.
To try and paint like they have no standing is as pathetic as Obozo's foreign policy.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 2:59 pm to DEANintheYAY
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You for real Quidam??
Putin is a total arse but at least when he says he's going to do something, he does it. And not just for the next photo-op either.
If he was running this country, Iran would hand over all its nukes, North Korea's leader would commit suicide (maybe a murder-suicide if he can take Dennis Rodman out), and the gay marriage crowd would stop cramming its views down everyone's throat.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 3/19/14 at 4:26 pm to Quidam65
For those who admire Putin's leadership qualities and being a "man of his word".
Explosion of Mafia
Putin 1
Obama 0
Silencing the Opposition
Putin 1
Obama 0
Freedom of the Press
Putin 0
Obama 1
Murder of citizens
Putin 1
Obama 0
Internet Censorship
Putin 1
Obama 0
Personal Enrichment*
Putin 1
Obama 0
LINK
There is some unbelievable ignorance on this board.
Explosion of Mafia
Putin 1
Obama 0
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“One cannot differentiate between the activities of the [Russian] government and [organised crime] groups”, Spanish prosecutor, Jose Grinda Gonzalez has claimed. Diplomatic cables released by Wikileaks painted a bleak picture: arms trafficking, money laundering, personal enrichment, protection for gangsters, extortion, suitcases full of money and secret offshore bank accounts
Silencing the Opposition
Putin 1
Obama 0
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high profile oligarchs, politicians, journalists and celebrities – including chess master Gary Kasparov – that have been censored, jailed, intimidated, exiled or killed under Putin. When, on a 2007 talk show, political analyst Mikhail Delyagin criticised Putin, he was edited out of the televised version – his disembodied legs eerily left in one shot. Rock group Televisor had its booking on a St Petersburg station cancelled in April after its members partook in a Other Russia demonstration
Freedom of the Press
Putin 0
Obama 1
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Several international organisations, such as Reporters without Borders, have particularly condemned the crackdown on press. The country was ranked 176th for press freedom by Freedom House. In 2006 Anna Politovskaya, a reporter with Novaya Gazeta, an opposition newspaper, and critic of the war on Chechnya, was murdered. She is one of 29 journalists from the paper who have been murdered or died in suspicious circumstances since 2000 – more than two political murders of journalists for each year of Putin’s time in power. Yuri Shchekochikhin was one such vocal opposition journalist who contracted a mysterious illness in 2003, aged 53. Witnessess reported that he suffered fatigue, red blotches on his skin, loss of hair and the gradual collapse of his internal organs. Russian authorities banned an autopsy but, according to Wikipedia, relatives “managed to send a specimen of his skin to London… diagnosis was made of poisoning with thallium” (a poison commonly used by the KGB)
Murder of citizens
Putin 1
Obama 0
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Many questions loom about the numerous deaths and disappearances of Putin’s critics such as pro-democracy campaigner Galina Starovoitova and Sergei Yushenkov, co-chairman of the Liberal Russia party, who were gunned down outside their homes. Famously, the government has been linked to the poisoning of the dissident Russian spy-turned journalist Alexander Litvinenko, who claimed that Putin planted the bombs Moscow in September 1999 as a pretext to the invasion of Chechnya. He was murdered in Britain with highly radioactive toxins. Andrei Lugovoi, the man suspected of the killing, was given a Russian parliamentary seat.
Internet Censorship
Putin 1
Obama 0
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Putin is pushing forward a plan to establish a state-controlled search engine
Personal Enrichment*
Putin 1
Obama 0
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The Guardian, has, however, estimated that Putin has over $40billion including 20 homes, four yachts and 58 aircraft including an airliner with an $18million cabin outfitted by a jeweller. In Russia, 35 per cent of all private wealth is controlled by 110 people. Andrei Kozlov, the first deputy chairman of Russia’s central bank, who strove to eliminate money laundering in the country, was shot and killed in September 2006
LINK
There is some unbelievable ignorance on this board.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 3/19/14 at 6:24 pm to Big12fan
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Explosion of Mafia
Putin 1
Obama 0
Yeah our President from Chicago wouldn't know anything about that.
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Silencing the Opposition
Putin 1
Obama 0
Yeah Obama doesn't use the IRS to go after his opposition.
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Freedom of the Press
Putin 0
Obama 1
Spying on the AP and a Fox News Reporter.
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Murder of citizens
Putin 1
Obama 0
How many has Obama killed with Drones?
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Internet Censorship
Putin 1
Obama 0
Obama's NSA runs our internet.
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Personal Enrichment*
Putin 1
Obama 0
Yeah Obama hasn't done that.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:11 pm to constant cough
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constant cough
Weak & predictable response. Do some research on the real Putin, not the one that Republicans like to portray as a great leader, unless you consider Hitler a great leader too. It is easy to lead when you murder your opposition, control the press, and are stealing from you country - what you and those who think like you don't understand is that Putin could only be a leader in a country like Russia, where all the major institutions are co-opted. He can't operate in the open. But he can obviously convince the simple minded.
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