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re: So Cosmos is more atheistic rant than actual cosmos?
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:38 am to magildachunks
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:38 am to magildachunks
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Some people do believe that and he addressed the belief.
Because it's disingenuous. The show is supposed to be a science show to convey and depict scientific discoveries in a visual, entertaining manner much like Planet Earth did a while back. At least, that's how I interpreted the advertisements.
I'm no bible thumper nor a creationist nor an intelligent design supporter. But I am against the brick throwing by both sides when it's obvious neither are going to give in. The show is not an avenue for winning the debate. It's not going to sway staunch creationists or even passive evolution-deniers.
The best path to educating an audience is to just teach and not engage in superfluous debate when it's been proven time and time against that the creationist-side is not going to budge at all. I mean, I live in Alabama. I have plenty of fundie-Facebook friends, and many of the watched the Ken Hall/Nye debate and lit up the news feed that night with plaudits for Hall's owning of Nye and the atheist demons that are trying to persecute Christians.
They're hopeless. Just present the facts in an interesting, entertaining way.
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:41 am to StringedInstruments
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Just present the facts in an interesting, entertaining way.
I was greatly entertained by the description of the evolution of the eye. They killed two birds with one stone with that one.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:42 am to StringedInstruments
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They're hopeless. Just present the facts in an interesting, entertaining way.
I thought the eye segment was interesting. And he presented the science behind it.
Was he supposed to ignore that phase of evolution just to not offend people?
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:43 am to StringedInstruments
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Just present the facts in an interesting, entertaining way.
I found the eye segment quite interesting and entertaining...
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:45 am to StringedInstruments
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They're hopeless. Just present the facts in an interesting, entertaining way.
I disagree with this. Some certainly are...but not all. To not at least acknowledge the alternate beliefs and address them directly misses an opportunity to speak to those who really ARE open to being swayed. To pass up that opportunity with an actual science program given the atmosphere in which we live in this country would be a wasted one. And if you piss off those that already are closed minded to your view point...who really cares?
Secondly...the first COSMOS (and just as importantly Sagan himself) did this same thing back in 1980 and afterwards. Sagan pulled no punches and took direct shots and religion when he felt it necessary. I'm not quite sure why Tyson, a guy who is nowhere near as outspoken in regards to religion as Sagan was, is being tarred for something that has yet to REALLY be anything more than a wink and a nod.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:45 am to StringedInstruments
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I'm no bible thumper nor a creationist nor an intelligent design supporter. But I am against the brick throwing by both sides when it's obvious neither are going to give in.
Why the hell would science give in when it has all of the factual support in its favor?
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he show is not an avenue for winning the debate.
But it provides the means to reach millions of people who otherwise may not search out information on the issue.
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It's not going to sway staunch creationists
Agreed on that
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or even passive evolution-deniers.
Disagree. Planting a seed of doubt could eventually lead to at least some of these people finally waking up.
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