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re: The Anti-Science Advocates have won: Measles Outbreak in NYC

Posted on 3/17/14 at 8:23 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124646 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 8:23 am to
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Has anyone ever provided even a scintilla of reliable scientific evidence linking vaccination and autism?
No.
Well, that is not exactly true. A hypothesis published in the late 1990's had it that the MMR vaccine may cause autism.

However, follow up studies were not supportive. Fast forward 15yrs, and obviously we now have substantial evidence discounting a causal relationship between the MMR and Autism.

Unfortunately, the public lumps that fact under other headings of "scientific consensus" and "preponderance of evidence." In a scenario where Anthropogenic Global Warming is being foisted by "Scientists" on to the community as supposed Scientific Fact, I cannot blame the lay public for a bit of general skepticism directed at more legitimate findings.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72378 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:13 am to
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Well, that is not exactly true. A hypothesis published in the late 1990's had it that the MMR vaccine may cause autism.
You referencing that study put out by that Limey bastard, Andrew Wakefield?

His research was so damn fraudulent that he was barred from practicing medicine.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22401 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:19 am to
My concern with vaccines is a little more with the Govt and Big Pharm. Drug companies have no liability if one of their vaccines proves to have health risks bc of a vaccine law approved thru Congress. All vaccine related cases are handled thru a special federal court and any restitution (and there has been a lot paid out over the years) is paid basically by the taxpayers.

Second concern I have is with the combo vaccines. Each vaccine has side effects some being relatively severe tho rare. Problem is when u combo vaccines there is no way to know which vaccine is causing the side effects which could influence the parent to stop administering the vaccine all together. Also usually the vaccines are combo'd out of convenience. Take the MMR. They can do individual shots but that would be more costly. Measles and Mumps are a threat to small kids; however, Rubella poses no threat to children yet it is added to the combo. My problem is Rubella has the worst side effects.

The discussion about vaccines between Dr. and parents is a not a bad practice.
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