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Ron Paul - Sanctions an Act of War

Posted on 3/15/14 at 6:13 pm
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 6:13 pm
I'd say that he's left the reservation, however, its been a damn long time since he's been on it.

So, where would we be with a Ron Paul administration?

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The former Republican congressman and three-time presidential candidate Ron Paul has launched a scathing attack on what he calls a US-backed coup in Ukraine, insisting the Crimean people have the right to align their territory with Moscow and characterising sanctions against Russia as “an act of war”.


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Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 6:14 pm to
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characterising sanctions against Russia as “an act of war”.



But a Russian invasion of Ukraine is not an act of war?


Libertarianism has been exposed during this crisis.
This post was edited on 3/15/14 at 6:15 pm
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Santa Barbara
Member since Jan 2005
45654 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 6:18 pm to
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But a Russian invasion of Ukraine is not an act of war? 


Certainly not towards the US
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62314 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 6:20 pm to
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Libertarianism has been exposed during this crisis.


As has your hyperbole.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 6:22 pm to
Ron Paul is a kook.
Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 6:25 pm to
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insisting the Crimean people have the right to align their territory with Moscow
I agree with this, although this certainly isn't the proper way of going about it.
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characterising sanctions against Russia as “an act of war”.
This is the sort of shite that bothers me about him and his son.
This post was edited on 3/15/14 at 6:31 pm
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 6:38 pm to
Rand (not Ron) Paul "going off" on Russia this week:

"I recommend a number of specific and decisive measures to punish Putin for his ongoing aggression."

"Economic sanctions and visa bans should be imposed and enforced without delay."

"Putin must be punished for violating the Budapest Memorandum, and Russia must learn that the U.S.will isolate it if it insists on acting like a rogue nation."

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Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 6:45 pm to
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"I recommend a number of specific and decisive measures to punish Putin for his ongoing aggression."

"Economic sanctions and visa bans should be imposed and enforced without delay."
I realize he's saying that publicly, and I hope it's sincere. Whether he would govern similarly as President, or something closer to his father is the only thing that bothers me.

I agree with Ron about self determination, but it's harder to support on the heels of an invasion, with likely bullying and intimidation and outright fraud involved with any upcoming vote.
Posted by Turkey_Creek_Tiger
Member since Dec 2012
12343 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 7:05 pm to
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But a Russian invasion of Ukraine is not an act of war?


not an act of war on the US
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 7:08 pm to
It depends on the type of sanctions but embargoes are acts of war.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 7:15 pm to
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So, where would we be with a Ron Paul administration?
Not at war.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294759 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 7:16 pm to
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Ron Paul is a kook.



In 10 years you people will be praising him.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 7:19 pm to
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In 10 years you people will be praising him.
Doubtful. The media will be blaming whatever other crisis they're drumming up on small-government types and these people will buy in hook, line, and sinker.
Posted by Pankins
Flahrida
Member since Oct 2010
1334 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 7:22 pm to
I don't need the government to tell me which countries I can conduct trade with
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 7:23 pm to
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I don't need the government to tell me which countries I can conduct trade with
KOOK!!!
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28099 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 7:25 pm to
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Libertarianism


The "isolationist" portion of this movement doesnt make much sense in todays world. Looks good on paper but people arent going to stop fricking with us just because we withdraw from world affairs.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294759 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 7:26 pm to
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Doubtful. The media will be blaming whatever other crisis they're drumming up on small-government types and these people will buy in hook, line, and sinker.


Probably. Some of his foreign policy ideas will be validated though as will his stances on the war on drugs.
Posted by Turkey_Creek_Tiger
Member since Dec 2012
12343 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 7:28 pm to
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The "isolationist" portion of this movement doesnt make much sense in todays world. Looks good on paper but people arent going to stop fricking with us just because we withdraw from world affairs.


Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 7:31 pm to
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Turkey_Creek_Tiger
Nice
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
50172 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 7:36 pm to
I somewhat agree with him. Economic sanctions can frick a country up, but it's a much better alternative to boots on the ground and it can be equally effective. My feelings on the matter are that, if sanctions cause innocents to starve, it's still better than bombing them and/or risking the lives of US soldiers. Probably cheaper too.
This post was edited on 3/15/14 at 7:38 pm
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