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re: The ramblings of a St. George opponent
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:59 pm to Camp Randall
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:59 pm to Camp Randall
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I've been considering moving out of the area/state for the first time in my life.
The only move I can truly say would be a positive for you and your children, grandchildren, etc, now and in the future. Not that I'd want to see you leave the state mind you. We need people to fight for this and not play pretend games, but I can't blame a person for wanting to better themselves in another state that doesn't face these kinds of struggles to the degree that we seem to. The upside is of course the potential for greatness that I see Baton Rouge as having in its grasps. The downside is the short sighted complacency, and contentment with mediocrity it sees itself as being, that "well, we're just like a big old country town" yeehaw nonsense you hear people regurgitate like that has weight to it.
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:00 pm to moneyg
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minute the city devolved into a place where safety was a legitimate issue
You know nothing, John Snow.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:02 pm to Mike da Tigah
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Throwing money at schools isn't going to make kids smarter. Taking your communities back from the abyss and populating areas of Baton Rouge long forgotten and thus interjecting positive values by means of a better class of people will make the schools better, and the schools more effective.
In a perfect utopian world that wold work but IRL that hasn't worked in many years so the people who live in SG are trying to interject positive values by means of a better class of people making the schools better, and more effective by separating themselves from the people who aren't willing to do so.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:04 pm to magildachunks
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magildachunks
I would like to hear your response to what I had to say about people in St. George involved in their schools a few pages back. It seems like this was either missed or you decided not to respond.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:05 pm to LSURussian
Still ever taken the time to make a case for why EBR public schools should be an acceptable alternative for SG residents vs what is available in Zachary, Livingston, Ascension?
Or are you looking to bolster your credibility with semantics like a D-rated school system vs an F-rated school system?
You lack the intellectual capability to understand that typos, "gotcha's", and condescending comments do not trump substance.
Your biased statements and attempts to discredit all opposition do not win you anything.
I understand that you are afraid of SG.
It's ok. You can take solace in the fact that you have no control over the situation.
Or are you looking to bolster your credibility with semantics like a D-rated school system vs an F-rated school system?
You lack the intellectual capability to understand that typos, "gotcha's", and condescending comments do not trump substance.
Your biased statements and attempts to discredit all opposition do not win you anything.
I understand that you are afraid of SG.
It's ok. You can take solace in the fact that you have no control over the situation.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:07 pm to Mahootney
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Parkview is ~$8k, Episcopal's even more.
Whether it's 3k/kid, 6k, 10k, it's expensive.
I would gladly pay that so my kids wouldn't have to deal with the bureaucratic crap that I dealt with my entire school life!
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The alternative is the scary 50-80% property tax increase that Russian claims.
Would pay that also!
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:11 pm to BeaverPRO
Who's St. George and what did he do?
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:14 pm to Drew Orleans
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Who's St. George and what did he do?
The patron saint of cutting and running, and the protector of EBR's education system.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:15 pm to MRTigerFan
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In a perfect utopian world that wold work but IRL that hasn't worked in many years so the people who live in SG are trying to interject positive values by means of a better class of people making the schools better, and more effective by separating themselves from the people who aren't willing to do so.
They are the very same people who have kicked the can down the street in everything. It's nothing personal, but it is the mentality of that generation, and so if we don't learn from those mistakes, it's only waxing much worse when we kick the can to future generations to deal with, thus doing the exact same thing they did to get us where we are today.
Nothing changes, especially our present realities, until we first change mental outlooks, and when what we see before you every day shows it didn't work, we have to at some point come to the realization that moving away from the problem isn't the answer since it follows us, and we help it follow us by building nonsense, zoning like knee jerk reactions, handing the city over to out of state companies that see us only as a red or black mark on a graph, and not caring what becomes of our city.
That shite has to change if we have any hope at all of having a livable area to call home in the future. If not, expect much more of the same, and worse as it increases in intensity. That happens when as it gets worse, people move, and as it gets still worse, even more move, until it's become ghetto and we then write it off as we've been trained to, and just avoid those areas entirely, even refer to it as a different city.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:18 pm to LigerFan
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would like to hear your response to what I had to say about people in St. George involved in their schools a few pages back. It seems like this was either missed or you decided not to respond.
You went to visit a teacher and she wasn't allowed to have visiters during working hours.
How is that in any way relevant to what I said?
Oh, and extracurricular activities while attending school is not the community taking an active role.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:19 pm to Mahootney
quote:You're wrong again. I'll have to go back and count. Is this 4 or 5 times you've been wrong in this thread?
You can take solace in the fact that you have no control over the situation.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:20 pm to Rickety Cricket
quote:
Who's St. George and what did he do?
The patron saint of cutting and running, and the protector of EBR's education system.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:22 pm to Rickety Cricket
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The patron saint of cutting and running, and the protector of EBR's education system
Oh yeah.
If it is approved though, I think I'll begin calling it St. Jude..... The patron saint of lost causes.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:27 pm to Mike da Tigah
So what would be the solution to getting the community to back the EBR school system?
And don't just say no SG. Provide real solutions that you feel would change the system.
And don't just say no SG. Provide real solutions that you feel would change the system.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:27 pm to moneyg
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There is zero chance that I would subject my family to that kind of environment if I had the option. I'm sure there are others who feel the way that I do.
Well yea, that's why BR is like it is.
You might consider moving to Sweden though. Pretty much the only sure fire way to avoid the issue.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:29 pm to LSURussian
How many times have you refused to provide an arguement that EBR schools are a good alternative to what's provided in Zachary, Livingston, and Ascension?
Here's a little gem for all of our friends in this thread to understand your opinion of the SG movement.
LINK
Posted by you:
Credibility Declined.
Cheers.
quote:Since you're so fond of keeping tabs of our discussions, I've got one for you.
I'll have to go back and count.
Here's a little gem for all of our friends in this thread to understand your opinion of the SG movement.
LINK
Posted by you:
quote:
No matter who claims what about the reasons for splitting off, it all comes back to some white parents don't want their little darlings sitting in a classroom that has more than two or three black kids in the classroom.
Credibility Declined.
Cheers.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:29 pm to magildachunks
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You went to visit a teacher and she wasn't allowed to have visiters during working hours.
How is that in any way relevant to what I said?
Oh, and extracurricular activities while attending school is not the community taking an active role.
Stating that I participated in extra curricular activities was stating that I have always been active in the school and have always been a part of the fundraising and have always tried to better it.
If the school board wanted the community to take an active role in supporting the schools, they would allow alumni to stop in and say hi, especially since I was visiting during lunch hours.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:36 pm to pointdog33
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So what would be the solution to getting the community to back the EBR school system?
And don't just say no SG. Provide real solutions that you feel would change the system.
Invade, and take your city back. Begin supporting your local business and industry where you live and create an economic ally that won't cut and run when it gets a little tough, but mostly take your city back and invest in it. Schools aren't magic factories where kids go in with nothing to work with at home, and no ambition, and come out all motivated and educated. If the family unit sucks balls, so will the schools, and if the family unit is functioning as it should, kids who come from families who instill values and a need to be educated will naturally do better and so change the environment of their schools. Taking back your city is first and foremost though, because if you don't do that, then the curve in this system will always be set by the lowest value that they must graduate, and it won't stop growing in intensity until it's corrupted the lot.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:39 pm to LigerFan
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Stating that I participated in extra curricular activities was stating that I have always been active in the school and have always been a part of the fundraising and have always tried to better it.
Again, I'm not talking about the students. I'm talking about the parents and rest of the community.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:43 pm to LigerFan
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If the school board wanted the community to take an active role in supporting the schools, they would allow alumni to stop in and say hi, especially since I was visiting during lunch hours.
Are they stopping you from attending sporting events, musical events, etc? That is where the real support comes from anyway. I can't tell you the countless times when I have been to HS events and see the strong lack of support from the people from the surrounding community of the school outside of the immediate families.
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