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re: Los Angeles city council bans the use of e-cigarettes
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:50 pm to SpidermanTUba
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:50 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Water vapor with nicotine in it.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:53 pm to SammyTiger
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I think it is better safe than sorry at this point. I don't think you should be allowed to sit there and shoot any chemical into the air in a restaurant.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:59 pm to Vols&Shaft83
The water vapor takes the crease out of my crisp cotton shirts.
eSmoking in the boy's room.
eSmoking in the boy's room.
Politicians don't ya fill me up with your rules.
Errbody knows that eSmoking ain't allowed in school.
Half the fun of smoking was getting away with it. The young rebels in the past have turned into "The Man."
eSmoking in the boy's room.
eSmoking in the boy's room.
Politicians don't ya fill me up with your rules.
Errbody knows that eSmoking ain't allowed in school.
Half the fun of smoking was getting away with it. The young rebels in the past have turned into "The Man."
Posted on 3/6/14 at 6:49 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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But they look like cigarettes, kinda. Think of the fricking children
Maybe Los Angeles should be consistent and ban porn. What if something like that fell into the hands of a child? (Which, BTW, was the actual legal standard in 19th century England so there's some precedent in common law systems).
Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:36 pm to Vols&Shaft83
What do you think is in them? just water?
Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:54 pm to HubbaBubba
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You can't remove the perfume stench and you can't create a skinny person from a fat person. You can, though, not use ecigs in a restaurant.
You can ban people wearing perfume or fat people from a restaurant, which would be just as absurd as banning the use of an ecig.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:59 pm to weagle99
When it is all said and done, I have no sympathy for anyone that lives under liberal rule these days when I see something like this.
Be it the President, a Senator, a House Representative, a state senator, a state representative, a mayor and right down to a city council person: All elected.
Banning water vapor cigarettes is stupid but I completely understand it because LA has no other issues to deal with, right?
LA has razor wire around their street signs to try and stop tagging and also has the worst traffic on the planet so obviously it is a Heaven on Earth wherein it's elected officials have ample time to devote to electronic cigarettes.
I hate liberals.
Be it the President, a Senator, a House Representative, a state senator, a state representative, a mayor and right down to a city council person: All elected.
Banning water vapor cigarettes is stupid but I completely understand it because LA has no other issues to deal with, right?
LA has razor wire around their street signs to try and stop tagging and also has the worst traffic on the planet so obviously it is a Heaven on Earth wherein it's elected officials have ample time to devote to electronic cigarettes.
I hate liberals.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:10 pm to Scoop
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Banning water vapor cigarettes is stupid but I completely understand it because LA has no other issues to deal with, right?
they aren't just water vapor. it isn't just water in the air.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:21 pm to SammyTiger
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they aren't just water vapor. it isn't just water in the air.
Yes it is, the nicotine is inhaled and absorbed. By the way, you also don't inhale nicotine from 2nd hand smoke either. It's harmless Sammy.
Dissipates faster than any fart.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:24 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Yes it is, the nicotine is inhaled and absorbed. By the way, you also don't inhale nicotine from 2nd hand smoke either. It's harmless Sammy.
Is that proven to be true? the body would have to absorb all the nicotine completely, and i just don't know if that happens. Obviously if true this is a very different matter.
Any studies you could link me to?
Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:53 pm to SammyTiger
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Is that proven to be true? the body would have to absorb all the nicotine completely, and i just don't know if that happens. Obviously if true this is a very different matter.
Most studies show there is around 10 times more nicotine in second hand cigarette smoke compared to ecig vapor.
LINK
A person would ingest more nicotine from eating any of several different nicotine containing vegetables than they would from second hand vapor.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:05 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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water vapor
I'm pretty sure it's not water vapor. It's either propylene glycol or glycerin or a combo of both. Both of which are harmless. In fact propylene glycol is used as the delivery agent for respiratory drugs. It's also used to make the fog from fog machines.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:15 pm to GumboPot
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I'm pretty sure it's not water vapor. It's either propylene glycol or glycerin or a combo of both. Both of which are harmless. In fact propylene glycol is used as the delivery agent for respiratory drugs. It's also used to make the fog from fog machines.
You're probably correct. But they look like cigarettes, kinda, so they gotta go. Think of the fricking children
Posted on 3/6/14 at 10:08 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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quote:
Water vapor with nicotine in it.
Methinks you don't know what an e-cigarette does.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 10:19 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Methinks you don't know what an e-cigarette does.
Methinks you aren't as smart as youthinks you are.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:00 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Prominent components in the gas-phase are 1,2-propanediol, 1,2,3-propanetriol, diacetin, flavorings, and traces of nicotine. As a consequence, ‘passive vaping’ must be expected from the consumption of e-cigarettes
LINK
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:14 pm to SpidermanTUba
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1,2-propanediol
aka propylene glycol
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:14 pm to SpidermanTUba
1. The suggestion that second hand smoke from real cigarettes is harmless is beyond silly. But then again, I realize I'm reacting to VolsandShaft83 so I should expect as much.
2. No doubt there are traces of bad shite in the e-cigarette, but I have no idea how much or the concentration.
3. I quit smoking pretty easily, but I did try the e-cigarette just for fun and, frankly, I don't see the point. They suck.
4. I'm completely on board with RogertheShrubber. I'd be much happier if they'd ban cell phone use in restaurants.
5. When I lived in L.A., I actually thought there was something sort of charming about the goofball, earnest naivete' of some of the dumbasses on the City Council. But I can see where they could be annoying to some people. I just never did, and don't now, give much of a frick what they do.
2. No doubt there are traces of bad shite in the e-cigarette, but I have no idea how much or the concentration.
3. I quit smoking pretty easily, but I did try the e-cigarette just for fun and, frankly, I don't see the point. They suck.
4. I'm completely on board with RogertheShrubber. I'd be much happier if they'd ban cell phone use in restaurants.
5. When I lived in L.A., I actually thought there was something sort of charming about the goofball, earnest naivete' of some of the dumbasses on the City Council. But I can see where they could be annoying to some people. I just never did, and don't now, give much of a frick what they do.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:21 pm to VOR
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4. I'm completely on board with RogertheShrubber. I'd be much happier if they'd ban cell phone use in restaurants.
Nothing like sitting down to some fine dining just as the patron at the table next to you starts blaring some crap from youtube or some stupid arse song at top volume. I frickin hate that shite. Cell phones make people classless. If I owned a nice place I would jam them in the dining rooms and keep it a secret "I apologize sir, but cell phones do not get reception in our dining room. We have no idea why. If you need to place a call we have a free phone at the bar."
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 11:23 pm
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