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re: Los Angeles city council bans the use of e-cigarettes

Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:38 am to
Posted by Al Dante
Member since Mar 2013
1859 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:38 am to
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Also i think the don't allow bus fumes in bars and restaurants either.


If you're eating al fresco you could inhale bus fumes. I'd imagine you'd inhale more toxic fumes eating outside a restaurant on a sidewalk than you would having some guy puffing on an ecig at the next table. They should ban outdoor dining.

This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 11:41 am
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:46 am to
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Also i think the don't allow bus fumes in bars and restaurants either.




You are an idiot to not know that the components of ambient air have no concern if they are inside or outside a building for you to inhale.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262009 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:51 am to
quote:

I don't give a rat's hairy butt what people ingest or smoke into their bodies, but I do not want your vapor at my dinner table.


I don't want your cell phone conversation. Ban that?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54237 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:55 am to
quote:

i think the don't allow bus fumes in bars and restaurants either.


If you knew what goes on in most restaurant kitchens you would welcome the bus fumes to numb the head a little before eating.
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
3950 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

there is still the second effect, they are still exhaling nicotine that may offend others


They are getting more nicotine from eating certain vegetables, such as a potato, than they would be from second hand e cig vapor

quote:

I don't give a rat's hairy butt what people ingest or smoke into their bodies, but I do not want your vapor at my dinner table.


I don't want to smell someone's stinking perfume/cologne while I'm at dinner. I don't want to watch an obese person shovel food in their mouths while I eat. I can either deal with it or I can eat at home.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 1:47 pm
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

Frisco, TX just passed the same ordinance.


I'm fine with these ordinances passing IF that same city banned the sale of real cigarettes in the city limits (at least)
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 2:27 pm
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 2:23 pm to
What's the big deal?
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8110 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 2:30 pm to
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I'm fine with these ordinances passing IF that same city banned the sale of real cigarettes in the city limits (at least)

E-Cigs aren't "banned," you're just banned from using them in restaurants, bars, theaters, etc...

They've applied the 'no smoking' rules in public places to e-cigs. You can still buy them in LA.

The title of this thread is somewhat misleading.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69947 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

The title of this thread is somewhat misleading.


Only somewhat

quote:

E-Cigs aren't "banned," you're just banned from using them in restaurants, bars, theaters, etc...

They've applied the 'no smoking' rules in public places to e-cigs.



Which is absurd.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45874 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

I don't want to smell someone's stinking perfume/cologne while I'm at dinner. I don't want to watch an obese person shovel food in their mouths while I eat. I can either deal with it or I can eat at home.
You can't remove the perfume stench and you can't create a skinny person from a fat person. You can, though, not use ecigs in a restaurant.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69947 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 2:55 pm to
And you can, not be such a whiny little bitch about some fricking water vapor that you can't smell, and probably can't see unless you're looking for it.
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
5515 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 3:01 pm to
It's easier to pretend to be some sort of victim.
Posted by gumbo1964
Caledonia, Miss
Member since Jan 2012
418 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 3:04 pm to
I quit smoking cigarettes 4 months ago cold turkey no nic patches, nic gum, or e-cigs. I have 3 co-workers that are using the e-cig to wean themselves off cigarettes. I should be very sensitive to vapors if they were to contain nicotine. One of my co-workers vaps in his office next to mine and I have not even noticed. I think people are being self-righteous about "Not wanting vapors in my food". Seriously find something important to "fix".
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 3:39 pm to
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Question for the board: How many e-cigarettes would it take to equal the amount of harmful chemicals emitted by a bus owned by the City of Los Angeles?



They allow buses in restaurants?
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

They allow buses in restaurants?


No restaurants in LA have patios?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66965 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

You are an idiot to not know that the components of ambient air have no concern if they are inside or outside a building for you to inhale.



what are you taking about

If i smokes a cigarett in a 2x2 room with you you would inhale more of it if i smokes it outside with you.

thats just basic physics . Its the difference between running your car in your garage and running it outside.

Will some bus fumes get in? sure, but they are dispersed. Cigarettes in a bar don't have as much room to disperse as bus fumes outside.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 4:45 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69947 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

Cigarettes in a bar don't have as much room to disperse as bus fumes outside.



But what about water vapor? Which is what we're talking about here.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:43 pm to
quote:


No restaurants in LA have patios?


They allow buses on restaurant patios?
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:43 pm to
quote:


But what about water vapor? Which is what we're talking about here.



Water vapor with nicotine in it.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66965 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

But what about water vapor? Which is what we're talking about here.


i would assume vapor would also have less room do disperse in a bar as it does outside. Physics applying to all gases. (is the vapor a gas? or a fine mist?)

I think it is better safe than sorry at this point. I don't think you should be allowed to sit there and shoot any chemical into the air in a restaurant.
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