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Phil Jackson says Lakers dynasty broke up because of Shaq's 'clown role'
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:06 am
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:06 am
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BOSTON — As arguably the greatest coach in basketball history, Phil Jackson won 11 championships with Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Shaquille O’Neal and Kobe Bryant.
If anybody would know the differences between those all-time greats, it’s him. In a panel at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference, Jackson shed some light on their work ethics.
“Shaq didn’t work at it,” Jackson said. “Michael was able to succeed despite all kinds of limitations in his game. He couldn’t hit an outside shot. He couldn’t defend. But all of that went away because of his work ethic. Kobe saw that as a pinnacle that he had to reach, and he took it to a whole new level.”
After winning three straight titles with the Los Angeles Lakers from 2000 to 2002, O’Neal and Bryant had a famous falling out, and Jackson pointed to their personalities as a cause.
“Shaq had a clown role he had to play,” he said. “So that was part of the rift.”
O’Neal’s outsized personality made him one of the most popular players in the NBA, but it clashed with Bryant’s serious-minded approach. In the end, Kobe won out.
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:08 am to NorthGAVol
Shaq singing his own lyrics to the Cheers theme in 2002. 
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:09 am to NorthGAVol
Shaq blames Kobe for shortening his career. He needed toe surgery and Kobe was calling him out in the media. So he kept playing.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:09 am to NorthGAVol
It's that LSU in him 
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:13 am to MrBlue105
Shaq's clown role was being unstoppable down low during the title years.
Kobe's clown role was shooting airballs for the last shot when winning big time was on the line.
Kobe's clown role was shooting airballs for the last shot when winning big time was on the line.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:14 am to NorthGAVol
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Kobe saw that as a pinnacle that he had to reach, and he took it to a whole new level
Kobe > Jordan
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:17 am to theunknownknight
Goddamn. How did I know you would be slurping the black mamba.
And frick no Kobe cant hold Jordan's..... well....anything.
And frick no Kobe cant hold Jordan's..... well....anything.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:28 am to NorthGAVol
And then won a championship without them Shaq is the man.
Shaq is the man. Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:30 am to theunknownknight
I don't know who you are or why you love Kobe.
But nobody who watched basketball fro 1980 to present would ever take Kobe over Jordan.
It just shows you're a guy trying to play poker in an open forum and don't know the game and don't have the experience.
You're a fraud...a child...unknownknight - nobody cares about someone like you who can't look back 40 years.
You're a Denny's Grand Slam afficiando - you eat shite and think it's the best - because you don't know any better.
You have zero knowledge - you grew up with a crap perspective,
Youtube videos doesn't give you knowledge punk.
God are you clueless.
Just a dumb kid...
You're just a dumb stupid idiot kid...nobody respects you.
But nobody who watched basketball fro 1980 to present would ever take Kobe over Jordan.
It just shows you're a guy trying to play poker in an open forum and don't know the game and don't have the experience.
You're a fraud...a child...unknownknight - nobody cares about someone like you who can't look back 40 years.
You're a Denny's Grand Slam afficiando - you eat shite and think it's the best - because you don't know any better.
You have zero knowledge - you grew up with a crap perspective,
Youtube videos doesn't give you knowledge punk.
God are you clueless.
Just a dumb kid...
You're just a dumb stupid idiot kid...nobody respects you.
This post was edited on 3/1/14 at 12:34 am
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:31 am to alajones
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Shaq blames Kobe for shortening his career. He needed toe surgery and Kobe was calling him out in the media. So he kept playing.
lolwut
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The 2002–03 season began with the three-time defending champions getting off to one of their worst starts ever. The team was several games under .500 at 11–19 with their return to the playoffs questionable. O'Neal was sidelined with hallux rigidus, a degenerative arthritis in his toe.[61] O'Neal could have had surgery on his toe early in the summer (which would have allowed him to return to playing sooner), but he decided to wait and have the surgery performed not long before the Lakers' pre-season training camp began. He said, "I got hurt on company time, so I’ll rehab on company time."
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:37 am to Zamoro10
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I don't know who you are or why you love Kobe.
But nobody who watched basketball fro 1980 to present would ever take Kobe over Jordan.
It just shows you're a guy trying to play poker in an open forum and don't know the game and don't have the experience.
You're a fraud...a child...unknownknight - nobody cares about someone like you who can't look back 40 years.
You're a Denny's Grand Slam afficiando - you eat shite and think it's the best - because you don't know any better.
You have zero knowledge - you grew up crap and perspective,
Youtube videos doesn't give you knowledge punk.
God are you clueless.
Just a dumb kid...
You're just a dumb stupid idiot kid...nobody respects you.
This post was edited on 3/1/14 at 8:53 am
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:37 am to Zamoro10
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Kobe's clown role was shooting airballs for the last shot when winning big time was on the line.
Are you referring to 1997 when Kobe was an 18 year old rookie and the Lakers got thumped in 5 by Stockton and Malone? Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:43 am to NorthGAVol
Seems petty from a guy that embraces "Zen Master" as his nickname. I mean, you can't work on 7'1 325, and I don't think he was ever going to have much touch on free throws with those bear paws. I guess Phil could've just benched him, right?
Anyway, I can't wait for Shaq's shaky-iphone bar video comeback rap.
Anyway, I can't wait for Shaq's shaky-iphone bar video comeback rap.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 1:06 am to theunknownknight
You're a joke.
Because you don't even have words.
And the history of experience.
Total child newbie...wrapped up in stupid picture responses.
You don't even have a legitimate response.
Clown...You are a clown.
Because you don't even have words.
And the history of experience.
Total child newbie...wrapped up in stupid picture responses.
You don't even have a legitimate response.
Clown...You are a clown.
This post was edited on 3/1/14 at 1:07 am
Posted on 3/1/14 at 1:10 am to Zamoro10
Damn
Posted on 3/1/14 at 1:14 am to NorthGAVol
No..I'm referring to his Finals performance post-Shaq...
Against his hated rivals...choking...sulking on the bench...doing nothing.
I'm a Lakers fan...and even I can't defend Kobe in good conscience over Jordan who I hated.
That comparison is ludicrous.
Every Laker fan wished Kobe was Jordan.
Kobe had half the fire and half the will and half the ability and half the gumption.
He shrank from the challenge. We saw it time and time again...and as Laker fans = it pissed us off.
But Kobe was all about scoring in the regular season against nobody...stat monger...and quitting on the bench like he did against the most important series against the Celtics to decide it all - for both franchises...he embarrassed Lakers fans.
Why do people take up Unbeknown Knight causes?
The guy is a troll and fraud.
I'm a real Laker fan and I would never take Kobe and LeBron over Jordan.
Have people gone insane?
Is everyone born after 1990 that insecure?
You child idiots!
Against his hated rivals...choking...sulking on the bench...doing nothing.
I'm a Lakers fan...and even I can't defend Kobe in good conscience over Jordan who I hated.
That comparison is ludicrous.
Every Laker fan wished Kobe was Jordan.
Kobe had half the fire and half the will and half the ability and half the gumption.
He shrank from the challenge. We saw it time and time again...and as Laker fans = it pissed us off.
But Kobe was all about scoring in the regular season against nobody...stat monger...and quitting on the bench like he did against the most important series against the Celtics to decide it all - for both franchises...he embarrassed Lakers fans.
Why do people take up Unbeknown Knight causes?
The guy is a troll and fraud.
I'm a real Laker fan and I would never take Kobe and LeBron over Jordan.
Have people gone insane?
Is everyone born after 1990 that insecure?
You child idiots!
Posted on 3/1/14 at 1:58 am to Zamoro10
I'm a Laker fan and huge Kobe fan. Obviously Jordan > Kobe.
But this:
Is almost as stupid as saying Kobe > Jordan.
But this:
quote:
Kobe had half the fire.
Is almost as stupid as saying Kobe > Jordan.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 2:19 am to NorthGAVol
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“Michael was able to succeed despite all kinds of limitations in his game. He couldn’t hit an outside shot.
The fact that MJ has always been a borderline bad distance shooter has always made his incredible ability as a scorer that much more impressive IMO.
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He couldn’t defend.
WTF?
Posted on 3/1/14 at 2:25 am to FootballNostradamus
He's talking about early in Jordan's career. Hence the "it went away with work ethic" part.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 3:13 am to FootballNostradamus
Ask the Jazz about that outside shot
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