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You're right, I'll rephrase:

It definitely defies the idea of an omnipotent creator. It certainly doesn't argue against ANY sort of creator, but it does contradict the concepts of designers typically brought up.

And that isn't speculation regarding the appendix.

It is exactly this type of atheistic tinged idiocy wallowing beneath the cover of science that gives true science a bad name. It is exactly this kind of careless stupidity that serves to enable creationists to claim equivalence in argument.

and just so you'll know, current thought is the appendix may serve to recolonize normal gut flora in cases of a die off. Could aid a person's recovery and survival from bad GI bugs like cholera.

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Posted by Roger Klarvin

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Posted on 2/22/14 at 2:32 pm to NC_Tigah

My point wasnt scientific, it was philosophical.

A perfect, omnipotent creator, by definition, cannot create something imperfect without defying his nature. We have blatant imperfections in our anatomy and physiology. Thus, a perfect creator behind our creation is a paradox.

This is different from our bodies decaying into diseased states, this involves inherent biological qualities present from the moment of birth (and, if you believe in it, creation).

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and just so you'll know, current thought is the appendix may serve to recolonize normal gut flora in cases of a die off. Could aid a person's recovery and survival from bad GI bugs like cholera.

Thanks for filling me in

We have far more well known and efficient ways of recolonizing gut flora after antimicrobial depletion and wash outs. The appendixes ability to do it is inconsequential, and as Ive already stated there is no evidence that people without their appendix are any more likely to contract any illness.

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Posted on 2/22/14 at 2:41 pm to NC_Tigah

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It is exactly this type of atheistic tinged idiocy wallowing beneath the cover of science that gives true science a bad name. It is exactly this kind of careless stupidity that serves to enable creationists to claim equivalence in argument.

And for the record, evolution itself is independent of any religious or philosophical belief. It either is the mechanism for how we got here, or it isnt. The number of people who believe one way or another doesnt change that.

That being said, there IS a reason beyond simple arrogance why most scientists are largely areligious. Science has punched huge philosophical holes into the mainstream concepts of God and calls into question a creators ability to be perfect while simultaneously creating what we observe. Dismissing religion isnt merely a passing thought, most who were and are now not will tell you it took a larger and larger stretch of belief to merge science with God's supposed nature until they could no longer do it anymore.

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