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re: Warming Predictions vs. Real World

Posted on 2/20/14 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 3:17 pm to
So let me get this straight, the red line indicates model predictions from 1979?

IOW, they are comparing what models were predicting in 1979 with observed data since?

I think our modeling may have improved some since 1979.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
266138 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 3:34 pm to
According to the adherents I know, the heat is contained in the mid levels of the ocean and not the atmosphere. This is how they explain the models being off. Could be, may not be.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
124254 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

So let me get this straight, the red line indicates model predictions from 1979?


It looks that way.

quote:

I think our modeling may have improved some since 1979.


Sure.

But I think the point is a lot of alarmist prediction were made off these models and a lot of policy proposals were made off these models.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
113718 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

I think our modeling may have improved some since 1979.


No, it hasn't. NASA models in 1996 predicted total catastrophe by 2010. It didn't happen. It never happens. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

So let me get this straight, the red line indicates model predictions from 1979?

IOW, they are comparing what models were predicting in 1979 with observed data since?

I think our modeling may have improved some since 1979.


No doubt models have improved, and in another 35 years the same thing will be said when the models continue to be way off.

Bottom line is the alarmists were way off base and refuse to acknowledge that fact.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Member since Sep 2003
125492 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 4:13 pm to
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So let me get this straight, the red line indicates model predictions from 1979?
Nope.

The red line indicates model predictions from The Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society (BAMS Vol. 94, No. 8) supplement titled "State of the Climate - 2012"

"State of the Climate - 2012"(It is very large file, takes several minutes to load)
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
37474 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

I think our modeling may have improved some since 1979.


And that is exactly why they predicted us to have such a cold, and snowy winter...................... oh wait.

Never mind.
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