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re: Ruling on SELA catcher tossing ball to his dugout
Posted on 2/20/14 at 7:48 am to LSUTygerFan
Posted on 2/20/14 at 7:48 am to LSUTygerFan
I wish i could hear what the coach was arguing. He just kept holding the ball up with two fingers like he was showing off a blood diamond.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 7:49 am to PurpleAndGold86
i would love to have a recording of the argument the coach was making.... he seemed awfully sure of himself.. showing the ball to the ump and getting pissed that they didn't agree.
ETA: bbap
ETA: bbap
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 7:51 am
Posted on 2/20/14 at 7:52 am to PurpleAndGold86
Is the play not dead when the fan touches it?
I remember when Larry Walker threw a ball in the stands and he tried to get it back.
I remember when Larry Walker threw a ball in the stands and he tried to get it back.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 7:52 am to LSUTygerFan
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There is no timeout in baseball.
ummm
Baseball is not timed so technically there can be no "timeout"
Posted on 2/20/14 at 7:53 am to HeauxBeaux
There is timeout in baseball. I dont know any other way to state that.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 7:54 am to ell_13
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Is the play not dead when the fan touches it?
I don't think it is. It's happened a few times (way more often than you would actually think), but I think that the outfielder actually does has to retrieve the ball like you just mentioned with Larry Walker. The runners can just continue running while he doesn't have the ball.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 7:54 am to bbap
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There is timeout in baseball. I dont know any other way to state that.
what else would you call it?
Posted on 2/20/14 at 7:54 am to HeauxBeaux
No one is saying that... Are free throws actually free and throws? What about field goals? The ball goes in the air and doesn't roll on the field.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 7:55 am to PurpleAndGold86
So what would have happened if Hale came home as well? That's my question. Would the catcher have to run over to the coach and retrieve it? Obviously the coach couldnt toss it to him.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 7:56 am to PurpleAndGold86
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The runners can just continue running while he doesn't have the ball.
or in this case while the coach holds the ball and looks like a complete idiot arguing with the ump.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 7:56 am to bbap
I thought I knew what happened and the ruling. Now I'm curious.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 7:59 am to bbap
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Would the catcher have to run over to the coach and retrieve it?
i can see this going like a kid interrupting his parent when the are having a conversation..
Catcher: coach, gimme the ball
coach: not now kid, I'm talking
Catcher: but coach, i really need the ball
Coach: what did i tell you about interrupting me?
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:01 am to bbap
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i really really wish the coach would have tried to throw Breg out (the pitcher was covering home).
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:02 am to ell_13
Well actually I remember this one. It was Benny Agbayani for the Mets a while back:
So that says it was dead and everyone gets two bases. The umps never ruled the play dead though while it was going on (sorry this is referring to the LSU play last night). Typically they would put their hands up and tell the runners which base they are being awarded, but that didn't happen.
Maybe once the 3 got together they ruled it dead and determined everyone should get two bases? But technically the ball also never left the field of play. The coach picked it up in FRONT of the dugout.
quote:
On August 12, 2000 while a member of the Mets, Agbayani was involved in a particularly memorable play. In the fourth inning, with the Mets leading 1-0, the Giants loaded the bases after a double, an error, and a hit batsman. With one out, Giants catcher Bobby Estalella hit a fly pop to Agbayani in left field. Agbayani, thinking that the catch made three outs, gave the ball to a child in the stands and began to trot toward the dugout. It took him a moment to realize his mistake, but once he did, he sprinted back to the stands, pulled the ball from the hands of the young fan he had given it to, and fired a throw toward home plate. Unfortunately for Agbayani, once the ball left the field, the play was dead, and all three runners were awarded two bases—causing Jeff Kent and Ellis Burks to score, and the Giants to take the lead, 2-1. The Mets went on to win the game, 3-2, and Agbayani gave another ball to the fan who had given the previous one back.
So that says it was dead and everyone gets two bases. The umps never ruled the play dead though while it was going on (sorry this is referring to the LSU play last night). Typically they would put their hands up and tell the runners which base they are being awarded, but that didn't happen.
Maybe once the 3 got together they ruled it dead and determined everyone should get two bases? But technically the ball also never left the field of play. The coach picked it up in FRONT of the dugout.
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 8:05 am
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:03 am to NBR_Exile
quote:There's no crying in baseball, but there are timeouts in baseball.
There is no timeout in baseball.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:05 am to bbap
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I wish i could hear what the coach was arguing. He just kept holding the ball up with two fingers like he was showing off a blood diamond.
This is awesome
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:06 am to LSURussian
The ball becomes dead once it crosses the point that was discussed in the ground rules meeting before the game and I do not know what that point is in regards to SLU's field. That play last night is just like throwing a ball from SS into the first base dugout. The home plate umpire nor any of the two base umpires killed the play. As weird as it looked SLU's catcher just went brain dead.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:07 am to Tigerfan613
quote:It never did. Coach was outside the dugout.
becomes dead once it crosses the point that was discussed in the ground rules meeting
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:09 am to Tigerfan613
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. That play last night is just like throwing a ball from SS into the first base dugout.
well not really because it didnt go in the dugout
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:09 am to bbap
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He just kept holding the ball up with two fingers like he was showing off a blood diamond.
i want this pic !
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