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re: Can St. George duplicate what is going on in Central?
Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:23 pm to LSURussian
Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:23 pm to LSURussian
I'm tired of explaining this to you. You can take whatever % of whatever you want and multiply that times the Russian factor of 457, then add the King's 2.3.
That is how a LSURussian statistic is born.
For the 18th time, you can't just take an arbitrary percentage of a total budget and call it legacy costs. You have no clue what the legacy costs are.
And yes, I provided you a link showing where you did just that.
That is how a LSURussian statistic is born.
For the 18th time, you can't just take an arbitrary percentage of a total budget and call it legacy costs. You have no clue what the legacy costs are.
And yes, I provided you a link showing where you did just that.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:24 pm to dragginass
quote:No, you're not. You're tired of being caught lying.
I'm tired of explaining this to you
ETA: You're a liar. It's all there.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:35 pm to LSURussian
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I'd say a good figure to start with for negotiating general governmental legacy costs would be $300-$350 million payable in three equal annual installments, please.
And here is where you pulled out your genius legacy cost calculator....where you just divided the budgets!
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But having said that, even if we use your lowest %, 10%, that would equal $80 million a year of the EBR total budget. If we only used just the general revenue budget, it would $29.9 million a year that St George owes.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:42 pm to dragginass
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And here is where you pulled out your genius legacy cost calculator....where you just divided the budgets!
I'm starting to think you're borderline illiterate when it comes to numbers. There is nothing in the quotes you posted where I've divided any budget by any percent.
Do you know the difference between dividing and multiplying? Do you know they are not the same thing?
And again, you have not posted anything showing where I claimed the legacy costs are $800 million. Are you going to continue to hide from that lie? What about your lie about 60% of the total taxes collected in EBR come out of St George?
All you are doing is making it appear that SG is populated with liars.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 2/18/14 at 12:15 am to LSURussian
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And again, you have not posted anything showing where I claimed the legacy costs are $800 million.
80 \10%=800 million.
That was your math, not mine.
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What about your lie about 60% of the total taxes collected in EBR come out of St George?
I meant to say Baton Rouge, or 40%. Per this link the revenue is a 60/40 split. I didn't pull it from thin air....
LINK
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All you are doing is making it appear that SG is populated with liars.
All you have said today is St.George will be corrupt etc etc etc. Go put your tinfoil hat on and go to sleep.
This post was edited on 2/18/14 at 12:16 am
Posted on 2/18/14 at 12:21 am to dragginass
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dragginass
Leave Russian alone.
He is, by far, the most argumentative poster on this site.
But, he is a self-proclaimed fiscal and business guru, so he's got that going for him....which must be nice.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 12:24 am to CherryGarciaMan
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But, he is a self-proclaimed fiscal and business guru, so he's got that going for him....which must be nice.
Don't forget his 9acre Highland road estate!
Gardere is part of Highland, right? :D
Posted on 2/18/14 at 7:40 am to dragginass
quote:I wrote $800 X 10% = $80. What part of that math confuses you?
80 \10%=800 million.
That was your math, not mine.
I'm done you with you. Your ignorance is unlimited.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 7:41 am to LSURussian
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I've posted links showing your previous incorrect claims. You've done nothing but continue to lie without providing a single link to support your lies.
Yet when I ask you to support your claim that Central city owes millions in legacy claims you call ne lazy and refuse to do so.
Unless I see it in writing I can't believe anything you post because your numbers don't always add up.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 8:10 am to doubleb
Two completely different things. Central has always been Central rather than Baton Rouge. The St. George thingy is yet more Baton Rouge retardation thinking they can cut the city in half, rename it and make something good out of it. It will fail, and it will take Baton Rouge down with it. A house divided cannot stand, and neither will this one.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 8:30 am to Mike da Tigah
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Two completely different things. Central has always been Central rather than Baton Rouge. The St. George thingy is yet more Baton Rouge retardation thinking they can cut the city in half, rename it and make something good out of it. It will fail, and it will take Baton Rouge down with it. A house divided cannot stand, and neither will this one
I agree, that's the hardest thing to overcome.
Central has always been a community, while St. George has communities like Woodlawn/Shenandoah in it but no one ever thought of the entire SG area as a community.
But it is divided now. You have a system for the City of BR and a system in place for the unincorporated areas.
Assertions have been made that the people in the SG area need to form a city to get their own school system. That is driving this bus. Other assertions have been made as to the amount of taxes paid by SG residents and the amount of services they receive in return. That has become a large secondary issue.
We have four cities in EBR right now. Zachary, Baker, and Central total about 55,000 people. Those cities seem to work and not hurt the parish. Would it be a huge problem if the 107,000 people outside the city incorporated?
City leaders seem to believe it would cripple them.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 8:43 am to doubleb
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You have a system for the City of BR and a system in place for the unincorporated areas.
It will still have to be called the EBR school system. There are still unincorporated areas in this parish that will not be incorporated anytime soon, that were always part of the EBR system.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 8:52 am to LSURussian
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I wrote $800 X 10% = $80. What part of that math confuses you?
None of it. Now explain to us how 800million has anything to do with legacy costs.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 8:55 am to doubleb
Baton Rouge is very much like a bunch of traveling gypsies, building temporary tent cities, never building structures that resemble people intent on staying very long, absurd zoning, very little code requirement but quick money, and always on the move to the new shiny areas being built when the tents aren't looking as new as they were when they were built, leaving in their wake the old temporary tent areas and all their trash to be taken over by human trash.
Now, when the old tent city they left is biting them in the arse, they want to separate themselves from the old tent city they created no less, rename it, and take their tax dollars to fund the new tent city, assuming I suppose that there will be an imaginary wall to keep them all safe from the undesirables and undesirable areas they left.
In Baton Rouge they call it growth, even in spite of the fact growth numbers are stagnant. Everywhere else they call it relocation, or erecting refugee camps.
Never once do these people consider perhaps investing in all of Baton Rouge as if they are intent on making it a permanent place to live, recognizing and changing direction from that mentality which has proven time and time again to be a huge failure, and give a shite about their own community and local businesses and business owners.
Many of these same people move to Denham Springs and Prarieville to recreate the same thing, because of course it's the very same people and mentality and refusal to recognize it's their biggest liability long term, and then the hold outs now want to cut the city in half. But let's be honest with ourselves, it's not as if changing a name is a new concept to Baton Rouge. It's been divided for some time now with the terms NBR and SBR and people who treat the two imaginary incorporated cities as being different when differentiating crime found in NBR and crime in SBR. It's one community, not four or five, and crime doesn't recognize any of these imaginary lines or name changes. It's a plague that you cannot run from and have to deal with as ONE community rather than dividing your forces and revenue to cause one area to go straight from struggling to welfare to third world and nothing to fund the infrastructure where many of these people will still be working in.
When people point to the baby boomer generation, or that mentality, and place blame, it's not as if their arguments are without merit. It's as if we never learn from our mistakes and are still intent on going head first into the brick wall over and over because at some point it's going to come down. And these lessons are being lost on many in the newer generations as well, still buying into what daddy, and grandpa thought was a good idea at the time, never once considering the possibility that they may have had good intentions, and good people, but they were wrong.
Now, when the old tent city they left is biting them in the arse, they want to separate themselves from the old tent city they created no less, rename it, and take their tax dollars to fund the new tent city, assuming I suppose that there will be an imaginary wall to keep them all safe from the undesirables and undesirable areas they left.
In Baton Rouge they call it growth, even in spite of the fact growth numbers are stagnant. Everywhere else they call it relocation, or erecting refugee camps.
Never once do these people consider perhaps investing in all of Baton Rouge as if they are intent on making it a permanent place to live, recognizing and changing direction from that mentality which has proven time and time again to be a huge failure, and give a shite about their own community and local businesses and business owners.
Many of these same people move to Denham Springs and Prarieville to recreate the same thing, because of course it's the very same people and mentality and refusal to recognize it's their biggest liability long term, and then the hold outs now want to cut the city in half. But let's be honest with ourselves, it's not as if changing a name is a new concept to Baton Rouge. It's been divided for some time now with the terms NBR and SBR and people who treat the two imaginary incorporated cities as being different when differentiating crime found in NBR and crime in SBR. It's one community, not four or five, and crime doesn't recognize any of these imaginary lines or name changes. It's a plague that you cannot run from and have to deal with as ONE community rather than dividing your forces and revenue to cause one area to go straight from struggling to welfare to third world and nothing to fund the infrastructure where many of these people will still be working in.
When people point to the baby boomer generation, or that mentality, and place blame, it's not as if their arguments are without merit. It's as if we never learn from our mistakes and are still intent on going head first into the brick wall over and over because at some point it's going to come down. And these lessons are being lost on many in the newer generations as well, still buying into what daddy, and grandpa thought was a good idea at the time, never once considering the possibility that they may have had good intentions, and good people, but they were wrong.
This post was edited on 2/18/14 at 8:58 am
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:04 am to Mike da Tigah
Good story.
However, your basic premise is flawed: the St. George movement is to incorporate unincorporated areas. Baton Rouge would not lose one square inch of soil if St. George incorporates.
However, your basic premise is flawed: the St. George movement is to incorporate unincorporated areas. Baton Rouge would not lose one square inch of soil if St. George incorporates.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:09 am to RidiculousHype
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Good story. However, your basic premise is flawed: the St. George movement is to incorporate unincorporated areas. Baton Rouge would not lose one square inch of soil if St. George incorporates.
You will be taking money away from what needs to be funding all of BR.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:18 am to Mike da Tigah
Why do the unincorporated areas NEED to fund metro BR?
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