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re: TX Grand Jury Refuses To Indict Homeowner Defending House From Thug POS

Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:54 pm to
Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:56 pm to
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The purpose of a no knock warrant is due to the propensity for resistance/violence and preserve the evidence.


And risk being shot like the cop did in this story?

Indiana recently passed a law allowing citizens protection from law enforcement in situations like this.



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So since the guy deals in weed, coke or whatever, the police need to get into the home quickly. You don't want criminals arming themselves while Johnny law is outside knocking on the door like a moron or flushing/burning/hiding the evidence.


Not worth the risk of getting killed becuse they think you're an intruder or rival criminal.

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The no knock warrant is justified in this case becuSe it's exactly what the suspect did. He armed himself an killed the officer.


Because a no knock warrant set it up.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 8:02 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:02 pm to
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The no knock warrant is justified in this case becuSe it's exactly what the suspect did. He armed himself an killed the officer.

he only armed himself because the cops busted into his dwelling. if they had knocked, it would not have elevated to that level
Posted by SettleDown
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:02 pm to
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The purpose of a no knock warrant is due to the propensity for resistance/violence and preserve the evidence
So, it is your assertion that breaking into a home where the occupant has no idea you're a cop REDUCES the odds of violence? Especially if the person in the house has a propensity for violence? Good fricking lord. No wonder cops are dying in shite like this(and the wrong civilians on occasion too)

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You don't want criminals arming themselves while Johnny law is outside knocking on the door like a moron or flushing/burning/hiding the evidence.
If you got on a loudspeaker saying you were cops and busted in, it is HIGHLY unlikely that the evidence is gotten rid of that fast.
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The no knock warrant is justified in this case becuSe it's exactly what the suspect did. He armed himself an killed the officer.
No. He armed himself and killed an intruder who turned out to be an officer.

THAT's the problem with no knocks. It's sort of a natural reaction of someone who has a weapon in their home to shoot at someone blasting into their home.

Cops need to stop acting like they're busting down doors in Afghanistan. In Afghanistan, the guys busting doors INTEND to kill folks on the other side of the door. That's not supposed to be what cops are doing.
Posted by lsutothetop
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:46 pm to
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The no knock warrant is justified in this case becuSe it's exactly what the suspect did. He armed himself an killed the officer.

you need to look up "Catch-22"
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:15 am to
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You don't want criminals arming themselves while Johnny law is outside knocking on the door like a moron or flushing/burning/hiding the evidence. The no knock warrant is justified in this case becuSe it's exactly what the suspect did. He armed himself an killed the officer.
So, no knock warrants are necessary to keep criminals from having the chance to arm themselves and shoot back.
And the example you use to justify this is the case where the cop busts in with his no knock warrant and gets shot and killed.

Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

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A dead suspect is better than a live one.
Would you believe it, there are some folks on this board who still don't believe me when I tell them that America is being intentionally dumbed-down.
Posted by novabill
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 3:02 am to
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The no knock warrant is justified in this case becuSe it's exactly what the suspect did. He armed himself an killed the THUG with a badge.
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