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re: craft beer bars in the french quarter

Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:19 pm to
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Yeah, I know what opinions are. Did I offer my post up as scripture?


no, but your food posts sometimes come off that way.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:22 pm to
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no, but your food posts sometimes come off that way.


Cool. I'll take the blame for others' personal interpretation of what I say.
Posted by urinetrouble
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:22 pm to
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but I found it funny that the first link I clicked on was suggesting Indian foods with IPAs


I usually drink an IPA or pale ale whenever my wife makes Chicken Tikka Masala. Very nice, especially with a masala sauce that's on the sweeter side.
Posted by urinetrouble
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:27 pm to
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the carbonation in beer makes it automatically a more filling drink, IMO.



I'd say the carbonation in beer makes it automatically a more refreshing (and hence, lighter) drink.

Why do you think the standard pour of wine is much less than beer?
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 12:30 pm
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:30 pm to
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Why do you think the standard pour of wine is much less than beer?


ABV ?
Posted by Oenophile Brah
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:32 pm to
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Who said it was fine dining. That's what I had for Dinner the other night.

I'm just making the case why beer isn't as widely available at nicer restaurants.

I said it doesn't pair as well with foods as wine.
Posted by urinetrouble
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:33 pm to
And isn't there a correlation between ABV and the gravity of the beverage?
Posted by Oenophile Brah
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:34 pm to
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So basically you're just trolling to be a dick. Congrats

No, having a bit of levity in an argument that won't be decided today.

Posted by Rohan2Reed
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:38 pm to
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I'd say the carbonation in beer makes it automatically a more refreshing (and hence, lighter) drink.


Perhaps on the palate, yes. In the stomach though I think we can all agree beer makes you feel full and/or bloated a lot faster than wine does.

I like beer with crawfish .. but if I'm eating a pizza or a cheeseburger I can stand to drink beer as well.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:39 pm to
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I'll take the blame for others' personal interpretation of what I say


That's all i ask.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:42 pm to
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In the stomach though I think we can all agree beer makes you feel full and/or bloated a lot faster than wine does.


I agree. But we also aren't drinking 12-16 oz. of wine per glass either. Also, wine tends to be drunk a little slower than beer (comparatively speaking).

That would be an interesting experiment. Pour yourself a full pint glass of wine with your dinner.
Posted by urinetrouble
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:42 pm to
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I'm just making the case why beer isn't as widely available at nicer restaurants.

I said it doesn't pair as well with foods as wine.


And that's not the reason. It has to with a poor public perception of the level of complexity and craft associated with beer, even among well-educated types. There are still a lot people who think beer is only something you pound at tailgates, pool parties, or maybe to wash down a hot dog at baseball game. And for a while, that was fairly representative of the domestic beer scene in this country.

But times have changed, beer has become much more sophisticated, not only in the beer produced domestically, but in the beer we receive from around the world. The fact of the matter is that true craft beer offers a wide array of flavors for any type of food pairing. This includes a lot flavor hooks that wine can't offer, like caramel or roasted flavors, which are very common in food. People will eventually catch on.

In the past five years, I've seen a lot restaurants start to offer regular beer dinners. I've got to imagine that was pretty rare back in the 90s.
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 12:55 pm
Posted by Rohan2Reed
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:45 pm to
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That would be an interesting experiment. Pour yourself a full pint glass of wine with your dinner.


I can down a bottle of wine in a night easy.

Also forgot to say earlier that I agree with urintrouble.. beer and cheese is a great combination.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:47 pm to
So it's safe to say Industry has one of the best craft beer selections in the FQ?
Posted by Oenophile Brah
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:48 pm to
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This includes a lot flavor hooks that wine can't offer, like caramel or roasted flavors, which are very common in food.

Me thinks you haven't had much wine.

Posted by TigerHam85
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:50 pm to
Beer can't offer the flavor of blue Hawaiian or fuzzy navel.

Wine > beer
Posted by Rohan2Reed
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:51 pm to
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So it's safe to say Industry has one of the best craft beer selections in the FQ?


Yes. I'd say it's on par with Barcadia's and Not as good as Bulldog.
Posted by urinetrouble
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:52 pm to
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Me thinks you haven't had much wine.



Well, I haven't had every single type of wine, but I've never gotten those flavors from wine. Maybe very subtle, but certainly not nearly as focal akin to what you would get from a stout, porter, or brown ale.

Which types have that? I'd love to try them.
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 12:54 pm
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:52 pm to
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urinetrouble


Well said. I'd say wine DOESN'T go with more foods and more types of food than beer.
Posted by BMoney
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:53 pm to
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I'm just making the case why beer isn't as widely available at nicer restaurants.

I said it doesn't pair as well with foods as wine.


Once restaurants are educated on beer like they are wine, they realize they can offer great beers that pair wonderfully with their cuisine. Talk to any chef who knows his stuff, and he/she will say that beer pairings open up a whole lot more of the tasting spectrum than wine. But the problem is that most are only educated on wine. So they keep the status quo. I know one chef in particular who moved from a wine based restaurant to a beer based one. Once he tasted all the different beers they had to offer, he said the amount of different pairings he could do was far greater. And that kept him interested a lot more.

But when the beer menu at a fine dining restaurant consists of the beers a college sophomore buys from Circle K, of course the patrons will buy more wine or cocktails.
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