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re: Unemployment Benefit Extension
Posted on 1/21/14 at 2:02 pm to HubbaBubba
Posted on 1/21/14 at 2:02 pm to HubbaBubba
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The OP was writing a load of bullshite.
Correct. Yet you still had some defending this fictional friend.
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 3:40 pm to Zahrim
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The last time they changed it they reduced the number of weeks. I was on UI at the time, you know what I did when my UI ran out? I got a goddamn job, was it a job I liked?, yes and no. It was in sales, I HATE SALES because I hate dealing with the uneducated who think they know more than they do, but it was with Geek Squad and they are cool. I had to pay bills. When I finished school, quit that job at graduation and had a job in my field 2 weeks later.
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ell him to get a goddamn job.
I have been unemployed twice in my career. First time in 1993. After a month of looking my wife made me go sign up for unemployment. I was on it for 3 weeks before I took a job making half of what I was making (i got more from unemployment). This job turned out to help jump start my career. I stayed 6 months before I took another position making more than i did before i was laid off.
Second time was 2009. I was unemployed for 3 months. I didn't sign up this time. I worked part time jobs and lived off savings until I got hired for my current job. I am better off now than I was before 2009.
I don't understand the concept of being too proud to take a job. I would do any type of work to provide for my family and to teach my kids to do what it takes to make a living (legally). I like my job make a very good living.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:08 pm to HeavyD
This thread went a whole different direction than I expected. I really was just curious if the people "in the know" here, think the extension will be passed soon. For what its worth, the background on this guy is he has never collected unemploymnet in his life and he is in his mid 40's age wise. He has had some help from his family and is fixing to get his real estate liscense. So he hasn't sat on his arse with his hand out but he does have some bills.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:13 pm to JBM210
A friend in need is a pest.
This post was edited on 1/21/14 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:34 pm to JBM210
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This thread went a whole different direction than I expected. I really was just curious if the people "in the know" here, think the extension will be passed soon. For what its worth, the background on this guy is he has never collected unemploymnet in his life and he is in his mid 40's age wise. He has had some help from his family and is fixing to get his real estate liscense. So he hasn't sat on his arse with his hand out but he does have some bills.
Hopefully the extension won't be passed. Your friend needs some motivation.
Along with the rest of those "too proud" to work.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:37 pm to NbamaTiger90
quote:I see all these references in this thread to 99 weeks. No one in the US has gotten 99 weeks for at least six months now. Nevada and Rhode Island give 73 weeks (which is why the Senate Bill's two sponsors, Heller and Reed, are from those two states), which is the maximum right now. All other states are less than 73 weeks, many far less.
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got laid off awhile back
I would guess that was 99 weeks ago
This post was edited on 1/21/14 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:45 pm to JBM210
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good friend of mine
After the benefits run out, friends and family should step in for hardships. Govt doesn't have a place in long term support, IMO.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:56 pm to NHTIGER
Fox News has been saying 99 weeks since the money ran out in late December.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:01 pm to C
The family here did step up first. He had some money set back in a emerengency fund that he ran through to pay bills while he was studying and taking the real estate tests. It is not close to the 99 mark. Guessing around 32 weeks.For him to get cut off when he paid in for that long, would piss me off too. Unlike alot of the people receiving benefits, he actually took action to better his situation.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:04 pm to Topisawtiger
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Hey HailHail, I have been working for 37 years and my employers have paid in a lot of money to insure me against unemployment. Never collected a dime. So what do you think about folks like me getting a nice 'bonus' for never using it? Or do you think that only people too frigging proud to take a lower paying job should benefit from the years I worked? People with your attitude just, well, never mind.......
So you paid nothing & feel entitled to a bonus for not making an insurance claim? Your employers paid an insurance premium that would pay out in the event of a claim. You paid nothing.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:42 pm to matthew25
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Fox News has been saying 99 weeks since the money ran out in late December.
Then Fox News is wrong.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:14 pm to LSUGrrrl
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So you paid nothing & feel entitled to a bonus for not making an insurance claim? Your employers paid an insurance premium that would pay out in the event of a claim. You paid nothing.
Insurance is based upon risk, if all companies have to pay equally it is not insurance.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:16 pm to StrangeBrew
All companies do not have to pay equally. They pay based upon their risk level. Their rate changes based upon their turnover and claims.
ETA - I should say that the discounted rates provided to companies are based upon criteria.
ETA - I should say that the discounted rates provided to companies are based upon criteria.
This post was edited on 1/21/14 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:23 pm to LSUGrrrl
It's even more pathetic is he doesn't consider it an insurance program and considers it a base tax employers pay to the federal and state government to cover the cost of unemployed citizens. So he believes he should get something bc he never got his price of taxes he never paid into, himself? Either way, that response was a typical mooch claim.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:34 pm to LSUGrrrl
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All companies do not have to pay equally. They pay based upon their risk level. Their rate changes based upon their turnover and claims.
Why would turnover affect it? If an employee leaves voluntarily what matter is that of the state?
I know they rate on workers comp but did not realize they did it also for employment as well.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:39 pm to StrangeBrew
Each state handles it differently but turnover was def a criteria for rates in both LA and TX companies. I turned in total turnover & Involuntary turnover numbers annually. It's all about assessing risk.
If an employee works for your company for 2 years, quits & works for another company for 2 months before being fired, guess who's UI is being charged for the employee?
If an employee works for your company for 2 years, quits & works for another company for 2 months before being fired, guess who's UI is being charged for the employee?
This post was edited on 1/21/14 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:45 pm to LSUGrrrl
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It's even more pathetic is he doesn't consider it an insurance program and considers it a base tax employers pay to the federal and state government to cover the cost of unemployed citizens. So he believes he should get something bc he never got his price of taxes he never paid into, himself? Either way, that response was a typical mooch claim.
LSUGrrl, you obviously misunderstood my post, and with the way you are so upset over this surely have been on unemployment before and I am sorry for that. What I posted was a frigging "hypothetical". I never have nor never will believe that I should get something for never having been on UE. You say we pay nothing, maybe you should rethink that thought. If the company didn't have to pay those premiums, don't you think, in theory, that the employees would get more in their pay while at the same time the company would reap more profit?
And you don't know me at all. That was statement of it being a "mooch claim" was just plain stupid. Have a great day......
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:49 pm to Topisawtiger
Ummmmm... No. Never been on UI. I have been in executive HR for many, many years.
Perhaps I misunderstood your post. If I did, I'm sorry.
But your suggestion that companies would pay more to employees if they didn't have to pay UI is absurd. If that were the case, they would pay more when their rates went down. Or, for that matter, any time their costs went down. They don't. A company will not pay more than a going rate for an employee position regardless of their expenses or savings. I've never worked for any company - nor heard of any company - that said, " Oh, my costs went down so I can give my employees a raise." Nope. They took any savings as profit.
Perhaps I misunderstood your post. If I did, I'm sorry.
But your suggestion that companies would pay more to employees if they didn't have to pay UI is absurd. If that were the case, they would pay more when their rates went down. Or, for that matter, any time their costs went down. They don't. A company will not pay more than a going rate for an employee position regardless of their expenses or savings. I've never worked for any company - nor heard of any company - that said, " Oh, my costs went down so I can give my employees a raise." Nope. They took any savings as profit.
Posted on 1/22/14 at 1:14 am to JBM210
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He is starting to bug the crap out of me for money.
Tell him the free market will take care of him. He should "just get a job".
Posted on 1/22/14 at 1:51 am to SpidermanTUba
Two years is a loooong time to not work. Don't have any numbers to go by, but I'd wager that the success rate of reentering the work force is much, much, much lower for 99 monthers than for 26 monthers. At that point, getting a job and starting over would probably seem really daunting, because your self-esteem, professional aptitudes and interpersonal skills have already started eroding.
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