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re: Judge rejects NFL concussion settlement
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:37 pm to boom roasted
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:37 pm to boom roasted
Am I the only one that thinks the NFL is screwed in about 20 years.
Less youth playing
Game is horrible to watch compared to what it once was
Player safety will never reach an acceptable level
Lawsuits
Etc. Etc.
Less youth playing
Game is horrible to watch compared to what it once was
Player safety will never reach an acceptable level
Lawsuits
Etc. Etc.
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:05 pm to TigerintheNO
Makes me wonder what the judge thinks would be fair....Owners cannot like this...I think NFL football is about to be changed forever with this new settlement
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:39 pm to boom roasted
Union not taking care of the older guys.
the guys from the 50's, 60's and 70's,etc they were forced back into games, lied to, and told they were 100% ok, by doctors. Those guys need to be paid in full. Some are drooling mongloids, from the hits and the fact that the doctors and coaches forced them back into the game under lies?. These guys should get fat $$$ and full health care.
Guys in 90's-now, they knew the deal, they knew what it could do, and chose to go back and get their brains scrambled. They should get health care only, little $$$$
the guys from the 50's, 60's and 70's,etc they were forced back into games, lied to, and told they were 100% ok, by doctors. Those guys need to be paid in full. Some are drooling mongloids, from the hits and the fact that the doctors and coaches forced them back into the game under lies?. These guys should get fat $$$ and full health care.
Guys in 90's-now, they knew the deal, they knew what it could do, and chose to go back and get their brains scrambled. They should get health care only, little $$$$
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:43 pm to SeeeeK
They're getting paid so much now compared what the older guys were and they know the results like you said. I understand paying the older guys who didn't know the severity of everything but guys in the league now or that are going to be soon know the risks.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:43 pm to SeeeeK
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Union not taking care of the older guys.
Neither are the owners.
In the last contract negotiation between the owners and the players the owners' point of view was any money that went to ex players for medical expenses/care such as the concussion settlement should come out of the player's current share of the pie.
I understand the owners want to make more money but that point of view doesn't represent reality when the lawsuits were already in teh legal system and those costs were going to come out of the total revenue for the NFL (both the owners and the players shares)
Posted on 1/14/14 at 2:04 pm to droman225
Posted on 1/14/14 at 2:36 pm to droman225
Cut a bigger check now, and say this is the last time. These people are signing contracts for hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions these days.
What did people expect when two, 6 foot 2, 210 pound people running 4.4's would be purposely trying to inflict pain on one another?
What did people expect when two, 6 foot 2, 210 pound people running 4.4's would be purposely trying to inflict pain on one another?
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:52 pm to ASTL
To me the "they knew what they were getting into" argument would be fine if the NFL had always admitted that these were the risks of this type. They have not. They have in fact done the opposite in intentionally withholding and debunking the best available information on the dangers of their sport.
Their MTBI committee was designed to deny risk and the NFL did not publicly admit that concussions can cause long term health effects until 2009. They ran around making public claims that were unsubstantiated and at times ridiculous when they alleged things such as:
"Professional football players do not sustain frequent repetitive blows to the brain on a regular basis."
LINK
Their MTBI committee was designed to deny risk and the NFL did not publicly admit that concussions can cause long term health effects until 2009. They ran around making public claims that were unsubstantiated and at times ridiculous when they alleged things such as:
"Professional football players do not sustain frequent repetitive blows to the brain on a regular basis."
LINK
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:59 pm to molsusports
quote:
To me the "they knew what they were getting into" argument
Does it take a rocket scientist to understand the dangers involved with this sport? I mean pipefitters hands are usually destroyed by the time they're 60, and they don't sue the industry for it.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:10 pm to AUCE05
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Does it take a rocket scientist to understand the dangers involved with this sport?
It took medical doctors, pathologists, and epidemiologists to show there were serious long term effects of concussions.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:13 pm to droman225
quote:
ESPN - Federal judge preliminarily rejects $765M NFL concussion settlement, is concerned sum may not be enough
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:19 pm to molsusports
quote:Serious question, couldn't they see the effects on boxers?
It took medical doctors, pathologists, and epidemiologists to show there were serious long term effects of concussions.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:24 pm to boom roasted
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Serious question, couldn't they see the effects on boxers?
Seems obvious now but there wasn't research into concussions and head trauma like there is now.
I think when you play you take the chance of getting hurt with the pay BUT the league tried to hide the consequences and didn't have protocol to keep players from going out injured to only get injured worse.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:30 pm to boom roasted
I think the answer to that is people have been way too cavalier about brain damage for a very long time.
The pathology findings in the brains of boxers have been recognized for many decades longer in that sport than in football players - the first CTE (chronic traumatic encephalopathy) cases weren't recognized in NFL players until this century (2002). Now that people have started looking more seriously at the issue it seems to be easy to find. Part of the reason that it probably wasn't identified sooner in football players was probably the culture of resistance and denial that was at least encouraged, if not spearheaded, by the NFL.
The pathology findings in the brains of boxers have been recognized for many decades longer in that sport than in football players - the first CTE (chronic traumatic encephalopathy) cases weren't recognized in NFL players until this century (2002). Now that people have started looking more seriously at the issue it seems to be easy to find. Part of the reason that it probably wasn't identified sooner in football players was probably the culture of resistance and denial that was at least encouraged, if not spearheaded, by the NFL.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:42 pm to RedHawk
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Am I the only one that thinks the NFL is screwed in about 20 years.
Nope. I believe that American Football has killed the golden goose. In the pursuit of endless amounts of money, they've lost sight of what makes the game great. You can take a family of four on a vacation for the price of one NFL game. The product is being dumbed down.
College football has the same problem, giving less and less emphasis on fans. Take a look at LSU. (And I know other universities have similar problems) Charge for parking, herding tailgaters off of campus. Confines traffic to an even smaller area, making it 10 times as difficult to get to campus on gameday. Price increases on season tickets. Increase the "tradition fund". etc. etc.
Now, I'm not saying you're going to see an impact tomorrow, next season, of maybe even 5 years from now. But let this concussion lawsuit get real legs. The same hits the NFL used to use in their NFL films are now Verboten. Let them find another sacrificial lamb of a team, and let it be someone a little more high profile than lowly New Orleans. Let the game have less action, more rules, more penalties. Throw in more teams in the playoffs, and add another two games.
This is JMO, and no one has to agree with it.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:57 pm to Quidam65
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I wonder if the judge wasn't concerned that the lawyers were getting the goldmine while the players were getting the shaft
Judge could accept the amount and reject the atty's fees portion, setting the fee.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 5:17 pm to molsusports
bullshite.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 5:38 pm to droman225
I thought the amount was already agreed to by both sides?. . . Why is a judge making a decision on anything?
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