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Feds list 141 new regulations in only three days

Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:31 pm
Posted by pistolpete23
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:31 pm
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The website Regulations.gov lists 141 regulations that have been posted by federal agencies in the last three days alone. Of these regulations, 119 are “rulemaking,” meaning they establish a new rule. Twenty-three are “non-rulemaking,” meaning the regulations does not establish a new rule. The largest group of regulations have to do with energy and environmental issues, many of them issued by the Environmental Protection Agency. One new EPA regulation is an amendment to a rule on hazardous emissions from lead smelters.


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Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:47 pm to
Individuals and Business ought to ignore that stuff...just like Obama/Holder IGNORES Laws on the books. Tie up the Courts and force the whole thing to a polar Mexican Standoff. Piss on Court Orders, Levies...the whole thing.

This is really 'taxation without representation', and should be treated as such.

Frickin 'Animal Farm' in the flesh.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:49 pm to
Like the saying goes, "The government creates new criminals everyday".
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:53 pm to
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Like the saying goes, "The government creates new criminals everyday".



Yep. Need more criminals, make more laws!!
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:54 pm to
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Feds list 141 new regulations in only three days


And every liberal here loves it. Decatur, VB, they all applaud the noble work the government is doing in controlling it's citizenry.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 4:38 pm to
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This is really 'taxation without representation', and should be treated as such.
no it's not, agencies are given authority by Congress in the laws themselves. It is how modern economies and governments work. This is like Law 101.

you can argue we have way too many (we do), but not that they are unlawful. Good grief.
Posted by Quidam65
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Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 4:43 pm to
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One new EPA regulation is an amendment to a rule on hazardous emissions from lead smelters.


I thought the last lead smelter closed? Why would they need new regulations then (unless, of course, the idea is to keep one from ever being built or reopened again).
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Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 4:47 pm to
Who gives a crap?
Posted by RCDfan1950
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38499 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 5:08 pm to
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This is really 'taxation without representation', and should be treated as such. no it's not, agencies are given authority by Congress in the laws themselves. It is how modern economies and governments work. This is like Law 101. you can argue we have way too many (we do), but not that they are unlawful. Good grief.


Probably true, technically, TA. But just like Obama/Holder IGNORES Laws passed by Congress, which should secure our borders...would that be 'lawful', IYO?

This thing is so far from the Original Intent of the Constitution...it's like the boil a frog tale. Did the Congress EXPRESSLY give these powers to Agencies...or do they just ASSUME such power? I'd like to see the fine print; I don't think it exists. If so...our Legislators are malfeasant.

Complexity, creates the demand for more complexity, to define, clarify and implement policy. Need a whole new bureaucracy just to do that. Where does it end? Look at the ACA trainwreck.

Tell me that you VOTED to pay for an exponentially increasing State that attempts to equalize all citizens economic inequality? Who would vote to fund such...other than them who see gain in another's labors. There is you 'good grief'.

I stand by my taxations without representation assessment. In spirit, if no longer technically so. George Orwell would laugh his arse off; even he could only imagine that this thing would come down. People farming.

Think I'll go with Spidey on this one.

Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 6:30 pm to
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Who gives a crap?


Strong, powerful post. Would read again.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Member since Jul 2007
25409 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:04 pm to
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Who gives a crap?


You add so much to a conversation. I'm so glad they let you back in.
Posted by pilgrim
Member since Dec 2013
31 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:36 pm to
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Tigah in the ATL

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no it's not, agencies are given authority by Congress in the laws themselves. It is how modern economies and governments work. This is like Law 101.

you can argue we have way too many (we do), but not that they are unlawful. Good grief.
the person you responded to never said it wasn't legal. What king george did was legal. Are you saying the founding fathers had no point with their "taxation without representation" stance? Feeding a live man to starving dogs is legal for some people; doesn't make it okay.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:31 am to
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Who gives a crap?


You've never had to sign the FRONT of a paycheck, have you?
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Member since May 2004
36132 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:39 am to
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You've never had to sign the FRONT of a paycheck, have you?


Is that where they put all the regulations?
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:42 am to
Just answer the simple question.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:43 am to
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Just answer the simple question.


Or what?
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:50 am to
You act as if these regs have no impact. If you actually were responsible for other people's livelihoods and how regs affect the bottom line, you'd have a different perspective.

But, as long as a law or regs "feels right", Libtards don't care, right Tuba?

Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36132 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:53 am to
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You act as if these regs have no impact


No I don't.

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If you actually were responsible for other people's livelihoods and how regs affect the bottom line, you'd have a different perspective.


I don't even know what regs you're talking about. You act as if all regs are the same thing and one is the same as another.


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But, as long as a law or regs "feels right", Libtards don't care, right Tuba?




Sure, whatever you say. Not much point arguing with you is there?
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:55 am to
So, explain the "who gives a crap" comment.

Sure sounds like you don't give a rat's arse about MORE red tape.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36132 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:59 am to
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So, explain the "who gives a crap" comment.



Who cares what the number of regulations are? Especially considering what you count as "one" regulation may not be entirely clear. Complex regulations might be considered one - or they might be considered several - so the counting of the number of new regulations is really just silly.

ONE regulation that requires everyone eat 10 pounds of kale before boarding an airplane would be very bad - even the dirty hippies at Trader Joe's know that.

On the other hand - many regulations governing how toxic waste is disposed of can be very good.

Each form of toxic waste needs to be handled in a different manner, there is clearly no one sized fits all approach to toxic waste disposal - and modern industry produces all sorts of toxic waste - so out of clear necessity you'll need a lot more than one regulation to deal with that.

So its hardly the friggin' NUMBER of regulations that matters.

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Sure sounds like you don't give a rat's arse about MORE red tape.




Sounds like you need to hire someone to help you with your red tape. If its truly that burdensome - your competitors are probably doing the same thing. If it isn't - stop whining.

This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 1:03 am
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