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Are we doomed to simple offenses as long as Les is around?

Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:02 am
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:02 am
Was Cameron hired to lend legitimacy to an approach that he had no desire to abandon?

How did the LSU offense change this past season except to get even simpler? Sure, we passed the ball far better but we finally had a far better passer, and relying on that guy's arm DECREASED offensive creativity.

Where were the screens? Where were the draws? Where was the misdirection? Where was the wisdom of keeping your opponent guessing? I've seen many high schools run more complicated offenses.

Miles still has a 1960's Michigan mindset. He relies on overwhelming an opponent by superior manpower... which is all well and good until he runs into an opponent with equal manpower.

Yesterday was particularly discouraging. Despite three weeks to prepare there was nothing in the playbook that took advantage of a more mobile quarterback... no bootlegs, no rollouts, no qb draws, no options... nothing that would infuse Jennings with a bit of adrenalin or confidence when things weren't going well. Cameron shat the bed.

Yes, we won. We had superior manpower. Thank you, Jeremy Hill.





Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:04 am to
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no bootlegs, no rollouts
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no options



wtf
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:04 am to
Good point. LSU should abandon what wins for them in order to make a dog dresser happy.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:05 am to
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Despite three weeks to prepare there was nothing in the playbook that took advantage of a more mobile quarterback... no bootlegs, no rollouts, no qb draws, no options...

The first TD was an option play

I have no problem with the offense. Yesterday looked pretty vanilla but Jennings is a true freshman. They're trying to teach him to be a pass first guy and that's the way it should be. No reason to make him rely on his legs. That should be option #2 for QBs.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
84284 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:05 am to
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How did the LSU offense change this past season except to get even simpler? Sure, we passed the ball far better but we finally had a far better passer, and relying on that guy's arm DECREASED offensive creativity.


this is how I know you know nothing about football
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56612 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:06 am to
there where a few questionable calls yesterday sure but we had to run the ball a lot the staff had no confidence in jennings.

Jennings will improve cam is a good coach.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:06 am to
This thread is nothing but a reach for criticism and the same recycled bleeding pussy nonsense spewed from the awful portion of the fan base.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:07 am to
Are you this much of a dumbass or is this just an act?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:07 am to
Only watched this one game this season?

Oh wait, this is a Rex thread
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:08 am to
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Rex


You're a fricking retard. Go put on your dog head and make another music video.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:08 am to
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Where was the misdirection?

Someone clearly watched the bowl game last night.
Posted by infantry1026
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
6258 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:10 am to
You made some very good points, but the offense was much better with an actual pocket passer. Miles reverts back to the offense from yesterday when he finds mobile QBs.

Anthony Jennings is a Tiger; so I support him and hope that Cam can right the ship for him. BUT he is not an accurate passer and his arm strength is suspect. I don't think that he will be a god like some on here touted (like they do every time a mobile QB is recruited.)

This offense needs an accurate pocket passer who can push the ball down field. Mett showed what this offense CAN BE with a QB with arm talent.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29808 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:12 am to
Freshman QB. Four weeks to prepare.

We arent installing a new offense in 4 weeks.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:13 am to
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Where were the screens?


We threw one for sure and a couple other swing passes to the RBs

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Where was the misdirection?


We scored on a counter play. OBJ threw a pass on a reverse.

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I've seen many high schools run more complicated offenses.


No you haven't.

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no bootlegs, no rollouts,


Yes, there were.

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no options


There were a handful of option and read options


Posted by pilgrim
Member since Dec 2013
31 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:13 am to
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no bootlegs, no rollouts, no qb draws, no options.
ran at least one bootleg and 3 or 4 option plays. We ran read option 4 or 5 times and it looked awful. We didn't need to run qb draws bc we didn't have any other qbs who could step in if Jennings got hurt.
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Cameron shat the bed.
Did you not hear Gruden and Tirico exlain how cameron has our wrs running NFL routes? They even showed examples.
Posted by Eternally Undefeated
Member since Aug 2008
902 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:15 am to
I guarantee you that there are many head football coaches that wish that they could do on offense what LSU can do, which is - slowly but surely - move the ball down the field. It kills the clock, it wears down the defense, and it prevents the other teams from score 40 or 50 points like you see in Baylor, Oregon, Oklahoma State games. .
Posted by Darth Miles
Member since Sep 2013
302 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:19 am to
Are we doomed to dumb posts as long as Rex is around?
Posted by Oizers
Member since Nov 2009
2668 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:52 am to
I agree to some extent. The main problem I have is that the offense can be a lot more creative without any increase in risk and pressure on a freshman QB. I think the current offense can actually put more pressure on a young QB if the running game is not as effective as it needs to be. Running the ball a lot is fine, but at least make it appear to the defense a pass is possible. Also, IMO, this style of offense is often a cause for the team's lethargic performances. The offense seems to suck any energy and momentum the team might have.
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