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re: Why is it taking Texas so long to make a hire?
Posted on 12/20/13 at 2:06 pm to TK421
Posted on 12/20/13 at 2:06 pm to TK421
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I know you desperately want this to be the case, but it is not even close to being true.
How would you rank them?
SEC is a clear 1
B1G no matter the football product has a great brand, network, stability, money, etc. So they are 2
Unlike tOSU or Baylor late this season, when FSU beat the ACC no one questioned if they earned a trip to the national title based on their schedule. So the ACC is no lower than 4.
That leaves the fifth spot for either the PAC or the Big 12.
The PAC only got one BCS bowl, but Stanford stayed ranked after a loss like no Big 12 program did. Plus they had five teams in the last BCS poll compared to the Big 12's three.
So it seems pretty obvious that it is "close" to true that the current Big 12 is fifth among the "Big 5."
Posted on 12/20/13 at 2:11 pm to cardboardboxer
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B1G no matter the football product
We're talking about the football product as this is a message board dedicated primarily to football.
Nobody gives a shite about the marketability of the B1G.
Football rankings would be something like:
Sec
Pac12/Big12 (these flip from year to year)
ACC
B1G
Posted on 12/20/13 at 2:32 pm to cardboardboxer
While in many ways I'd agree with your rank-and-file, especially is based upon financial strength, academic prowess, huge alumni fanbases, and OSU/Michigan as powerhouses..
One could argue that the Big-12 despite recent conference disassembly, and having too many members in one state(albeit a huge, populous, prospering, and fertile state), with rising programs in Baylor and OSU, and two schools in UT/Okla with natty titles in the last 13 years, both also with multiple BCSCG appearances..4 for OU..2 for Tex.
Until this year's BCSCG, the ACC had been DOA since FSU and Miami in early '00s. The Pac-12 sans One-Pete and UO BCSCG appearances, recent Stanford rise, largely underachieving in UCLA, ASU, AZ, UW, WSU, OSU, Cal.
Granted, many Big-10 programs get geeked, and take down some SEC schools in scheduled-up/down bowl games, for conference pride sake. But, sans OSU and the late whistle vs Miami, Buckeyes would be 0-3 in BCSCGs, needed Ark to whiff on easy pointblank scoop-and-score to hold onto Sugar win vs Ark to stop SEC bowl streak vs OSU. Michigan usually overrated, gets slapped by OSU and/or USC in Rose, even if unbeaten late in the season, Wisky faded since Alvarez and not dominant away from Madison,etc..
There is no doubt that the Big-12 has a weak lower middle and bottom-tier in terms of Football, and leaner population metros/epicenters than the aforementioned conferences. But, UT/OU's BCS era workload and trophy case outshine just about any sans SEC's Big 4, Ohio St, USCw..and on par with FSU/Mia if based strictly upon BSC title wins. Oregon arguably also on par(despite no hardware)in terms of BCS berths, Ws,etc..
One could argue that the Big-12 despite recent conference disassembly, and having too many members in one state(albeit a huge, populous, prospering, and fertile state), with rising programs in Baylor and OSU, and two schools in UT/Okla with natty titles in the last 13 years, both also with multiple BCSCG appearances..4 for OU..2 for Tex.
Until this year's BCSCG, the ACC had been DOA since FSU and Miami in early '00s. The Pac-12 sans One-Pete and UO BCSCG appearances, recent Stanford rise, largely underachieving in UCLA, ASU, AZ, UW, WSU, OSU, Cal.
Granted, many Big-10 programs get geeked, and take down some SEC schools in scheduled-up/down bowl games, for conference pride sake. But, sans OSU and the late whistle vs Miami, Buckeyes would be 0-3 in BCSCGs, needed Ark to whiff on easy pointblank scoop-and-score to hold onto Sugar win vs Ark to stop SEC bowl streak vs OSU. Michigan usually overrated, gets slapped by OSU and/or USC in Rose, even if unbeaten late in the season, Wisky faded since Alvarez and not dominant away from Madison,etc..
There is no doubt that the Big-12 has a weak lower middle and bottom-tier in terms of Football, and leaner population metros/epicenters than the aforementioned conferences. But, UT/OU's BCS era workload and trophy case outshine just about any sans SEC's Big 4, Ohio St, USCw..and on par with FSU/Mia if based strictly upon BSC title wins. Oregon arguably also on par(despite no hardware)in terms of BCS berths, Ws,etc..
This post was edited on 12/20/13 at 2:42 pm
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