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re: College Football Playoff using top 4 Conference winners: BCS era
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:48 pm to Kcoyote
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:48 pm to Kcoyote
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In their mind it would have been set just the top 4 teams from the BCS, not a shady conference selection committee that uses the Geico Ford DodgeRam Allstate Tostitos Championship Drive® to determine the top 4.
I guess we will see, but I have not reason to believe that the committee will be much different than that top 4 anyway.
Frankly this year with FSU and Auburn in I'd have no problem what so ever with any 2 out of Bama, MSU, Baylor and Stanford making it in. The only arguments you have Bama over Baylor say are purely subjective opinion.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:54 pm to H-Town Tiger
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I guess we will see, but I have not reason to believe that the committee will be much different than that top 4 anyway.
There probably is when you read what's been said:
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The championship game will be managed by the conferences and will not be branded as a bowl game. The presidents also announced the creation of a selection committee that will rank the teams to play in the playoff, "giving all the teams an equal opportunity to participate." The committee will consider win-loss record, strength of schedule, head-to-head results and whether a team is a conference champion.
When you look at those listed criteria that makes it a long shot for an at large who didn't win their conference to make the field.
1) Win/loss records are unlikely to help at large teams that don't win their conference; their W/L records are similar generally (MSU, UCF, Baylor, and Alabama have the same records this year).
2) Strength of schedule won't help teams like Alabama unless they start scheduling more aggressively out of conference. Note they have one win against a team in teh top 20 of the BCS in LSU whereas conference champs like Baylor, MSU, and Stanford may have better quality wins on their schedules (again, I refer you to the BCS rankings of teams like OU, tOSU, Oregon, ASU, and UCLA compared to Bama's best team beaten in LSU)
3) Head to head results - another way of saying win your conference. If you lost those games against teams you should have beaten to win your conference you are going to have an uphill battle to an at large berth.
4) Winning your conference - By definition this will not favor at large bids.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:57 pm to H-Town Tiger
In this year's case that is very true. I say Baylor, MSU over Alabama.
However, in 2011 I would have been VERY upset if the playoff was a 12-0 LSU vs. 11-2 Wisconsin (#10); 11-1 Ok. St vs. 11-1 Stanford.
And that's what will happen with this playoff. Conference winners will be chosen even with two losses over the best team in the country for that year.
However, in 2011 I would have been VERY upset if the playoff was a 12-0 LSU vs. 11-2 Wisconsin (#10); 11-1 Ok. St vs. 11-1 Stanford.
And that's what will happen with this playoff. Conference winners will be chosen even with two losses over the best team in the country for that year.
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