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Building a house, in a subdivision

Posted on 11/20/13 at 12:29 pm
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8239 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 12:29 pm
Got a coworker about to build a house and he asked me how big should he make the side gate entrance to his back yard if he wanted to park a boat in the back yard (he doesn't have a boat...but is considering one). I told him,since I'm not a boat owner either...I really didn't know, but I knew some smart people online at TD-OB. He's going meet with the contractor next week, and it matters how deep he has the house set from the road as the yard is narrow at the front and wide at the back...so farther back he sets the house..the more side area he has.

What's the members of the OB say? Is 10ft enough or 12 or can he go less to move the house up in the lot to maximize his back yard? I think he's planning on this in case he can't park the boat in the garage.
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57012 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 12:44 pm to
depends on what type of boat he is thinking. little boat you wont need anything over 8ft, bigger boat I'd recommend at least 10, if not 12.
Posted by poule deau
Member since Jan 2009
1487 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

Is 10ft enough


10' would be the absolute minimum. A lot of boats in the 22'-24' range are going to be very close to that on the trailer. Doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room.

Seems like the obvious answer, but I would go as wide as possible.
Posted by B&TCoonhound
Fighting in the Kumite
Member since Feb 2013
2004 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 12:51 pm to
I build houses on the side and I did one about a year ago that had a rear loading garage. I did the driveway right on the property line and it ended up being 12' wide. 12' would be the minimum width that I would go, especially with a decent size boat. He could get by with 12' if he doesn't have to make a turn and just backs the boat straight back. Hope this helps.
Posted by WHODAT514
Walker, La
Member since Mar 2012
1893 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 12:54 pm to
I went with 10', it's just enough room . They got a cement truck in my back yard through it! I have a 20' xpress bay boat and it fits just fine but it stays under my carport. So To answer your question 10' will work just fine. 12' would be nicer for the extra room but not needed
This post was edited on 11/20/13 at 12:55 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57012 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

A lot of boats in the 22'-24' range are going to be very close to that on the trailer. Doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room.


You figure most beams on a boat that size are 96"-102"(8'-8.5') then if you have guide post etc... you are at 9'-9.5'. 10-10.5' will be fine if you are driving straight in, however if you are backing it in, give yourself at least a foot on each side or more
Posted by tiger94gop
GEISMAR
Member since Nov 2004
3216 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 12:57 pm to
Do 15 with a split gate. No troubles there. He can pull his trailer in and out without an issue.

The real question he should be asking is does the subdivision have restrictions on gate size, distance from the road, etc. He may not be able to do anything he wants without their approval.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28604 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 12:58 pm to
standard traffic lane is 12ft. My gate is 10ft and I can get whatever in need in there.

A 10ft gate need 6x6 post. You would probably need to bump that up to 8x8 for a 12ft gate.
Posted by Vlad
North AL
Member since May 2012
2605 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

I think he's planning on this in case he can't park the boat in the garage


Almost all new trailers have the swing away tongue. With the swing away tongue he will be able to fit up to a 21 ft boat in a standard length garage. Actually, my 21 foot fit fine but I had to remove the foot saver and drop the motor down. If he is set on pouring a pad, I would suggest 12 feet.
Posted by LSUnGA
Buford, GA
Member since Jun 2009
1703 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

He may not be able to do anything he wants without their approval.


If he has an HOA he may not be able to park anything on the side of his house.
Posted by Chris4x4gill2
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2008
3116 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 1:18 pm to
I always try to do 12ft or larger for gates. 10 will work in most cases though, but the extra room is nice if you can fit it.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 1:42 pm to
I'd go with 12' as a minimum. Anything with a wide bottom will be very difficult to back up with a 10' gap.
Posted by SeaPickle
Thibodaux
Member since May 2011
3183 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:42 pm to
I just built a 12' wide double door gate for my boat. I have a 20' Xpress H20B beam is 95" trailer is juat a little wider than that so say 9' at its widest. 12' wide opening is perfect sized, i think. Take a few inches away for the gate when open and it gets tight quick if you have a 10' fence and a decent sized boat.
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8239 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

If he has an HOA he may not be able to park anything on the side of his house.



First off..thanks for all the opinions and thoughts.

Secondly..I don't know if he has an HOA or not, and if he does what kind of restrictions...I just told him I'd do the "math" by asking a few folks.

Again, appreciate all the responses.
Posted by tiger94gop
GEISMAR
Member since Nov 2004
3216 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 4:05 pm to
He'll know if already owns the lot. They will have already let him know what type of house he can build, where he can build it, etc. He should know this before worrying about anything else. They will lien his property and will not be able to get a construction loan. Also they can basically tell him he can't have a boat, size of the gate, etc. If he is in an unrestricted subdivision, then he needs to mark it off with flagging, etc. Then he can decide.

I would do 12-15 minimum. Do a 16 ft gate with 8ft double gates.
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