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re: Would you want an 8 or 16 team playoff in CFB?
Posted on 11/20/13 at 10:21 am to St Augustine
Posted on 11/20/13 at 10:21 am to St Augustine
4 is ridiculous
Shout be 8 or 16
Shout be 8 or 16
Posted on 11/20/13 at 10:28 am to rocket31
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top 6 teams
everyone go independent and schedule nationally
leave conferences for olympic sports.
That is the singular worst idea I have ever heard. Though it does sum up my argument on how the BCS has destroyed college football.
College football is not one big league like the NFL. It is a confederation of multiple quasi-independent leagues, like Champions League. This suggestion is the equivalent of devolving the EPL, La Liga, Serie A, and the rest to make a "better" Champions League.
It destroys the sport itself. I care about winning the SEC because the SEC is the actual league we play in. There is no national league, nor can there be with just a 12 game schedule.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 10:31 am to Baloo
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College football is not one big league like the NFL
Please, its very similar. Only a handful of teams have a chance to win every season. And only ~30 are even in consideration.
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I care about winning the SEC because the SEC is the actual league we play i
Neato, thats great for you. However, the average fan good give a frick less about winning the ACC, or the Big12, or the B1G.
Its all about the Natty Title. Nothing else matters. You think Ohio State will be satisfied with another B1G title? Gooby pls. You think Florida State will be satisfied with just winning the ACC? Gooby pls.
This post was edited on 11/20/13 at 10:32 am
Posted on 11/20/13 at 10:31 am to rocket31
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However, the average fan good give a frick less about winning the ACC, or the Big12, or the B1G.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 10:33 am to craigbiggio
Please explain, I know as an Ohio State fan, I give exactly two shits about winning the B1G. National title is ALL that matters.
It may be different in the SEC, but Bama cares far more about winning another National Title; settling for just an SEC championaship, would be a disappointment.
It may be different in the SEC, but Bama cares far more about winning another National Title; settling for just an SEC championaship, would be a disappointment.
This post was edited on 11/20/13 at 10:36 am
Posted on 11/20/13 at 10:36 am to rocket31
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Please, its very similar
It's not remotely similar. LSU, for example, has never played Michigan. Ever. Two of the top ten programs in college history, and they've never played each other. We might as well not be in the same sport.
And let's limit it to major conferences, there are 60 teams in the five major conferences, and Notre Dame brings you to 61. The idea you can sort the quality of 61 teams, and that's only major conference teams, in a 12 game self-selected schedule is just wrong. It cannot be done. The idea we know who is "better" is a total myth of narrative.
but forget all that, destroying the conferences would fundamentally alter college football and destroy the foundation of the sport itself. Its a sport rooted in tradition and centuries' old rivalries. An end to conference play would end what makes college sports special. It's a fantastically bad idea.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 10:38 am to rocket31
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Please explain, I know as an Ohio State fan, I give exactly two shits about winning the B1G. National title is ALL that matters.
Well you're used to winning conference titles and playing for national championships. Most fanbases don't experience that as frequently and aren't as spoiled by success as you or I.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 10:40 am to Baloo
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LSU, for example, has never played Michigan. Ever. Two of the top ten programs in college history, and they've never played each other. We might as well not be in the same sport.
Which is absolutely ludicrous and why conferences should be abolished. Play national schedules.
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but forget all that, destroying the conferences would fundamentally alter college football and destroy the foundation of the sport itself. Its a sport rooted in tradition and centuries' old rivalries. An end to conference play would end what makes college sports special. It's a fantastically bad idea.
Oh "tradition" the argument, I forgot. Lets bring back leather helmets as well. Maybe while we are at, we can revisit the old bowl structure? Tradition is gone, especially when we have teams like Rutgers and Maryland playing in the B1G. Tradition, not even once.
This post was edited on 11/20/13 at 10:46 am
Posted on 11/20/13 at 10:43 am to craigbiggio
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Most fanbases don't experience that as frequently and aren't as spoiled by success as you or I.
Conference titles are absolutely meaningless in sports, across the country. No one cares about who won the AFC north last year, for example. No one cares about who won the NBA Western Conference last year, etc.
Its an outdated "tradition" to keep them considering todays college football landscape.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 10:46 am to rocket31
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Conference titles are absolutely meaningless in sports, across the country. No one cares about who won the AFC north last year, for example. No one cares about who won the NBA Western Conference last year, etc.
Meaningless in NFL, are you kidding me? It's a guaranteed home playoff game.
Tell the 2010 Seahawks that their division title was meaningless
Posted on 11/20/13 at 10:51 am to Pelican fan99
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6 should be the largest the playoff ever gets
This! It gives more insentives for teams to get to the top 2 spots in the poles and play out the entire season.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 10:51 am to craigbiggio
To clarify, I mean, symbolically meaningless.
As in, no team looks back on the season and goes, "Well, we got our arse-kicked in the title game, but at least we had home field advantage" Just lol
As in, no team looks back on the season and goes, "Well, we got our arse-kicked in the title game, but at least we had home field advantage" Just lol
This post was edited on 11/20/13 at 10:56 am
Posted on 11/20/13 at 10:58 am to bulldog95
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Should be 8 the same as FCS ( previously DII)
So much fail in one sentence
Posted on 11/20/13 at 11:00 am to harry coleman beast
I'd definitely go with a 12 team playoff. It gives the top 4 in the country a BYE and rewards them for doing well in the season, while still giving enough teams to make a Playoff very interesting.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 11:03 am to gobuxgo5
The more teams the more meaningless the regular season becomes. 6 teams max
Posted on 11/20/13 at 11:11 am to harry coleman beast
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The more teams the more meaningless the regular season becomes. 6 teams max
The regular season is already meaningless for 98% of the schools. Expanding to a 4 team playoff lowers that number to 97%. 6 teams would be 95% meaningless. Where as, if you allow all conference champions a spot in the playoff, then the regular season is meaningful for every team in the country.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 11:14 am to rocket31
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However, the average fan good give a frick less about winning the ACC, or the Big12, or the B1G.
Its all about the Natty Title. Nothing else matters.
This is one of the biggest problems with the BCS.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 11:14 am to benhamin5555
I'd love 6 or 8. Nothing larger though.
I still don't know what the best option would be, but I'd be open to up to 8.
I still don't know what the best option would be, but I'd be open to up to 8.
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