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re: Don't fret, LSU fans...this run by Alabama will end soon...
Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:31 am to Chicken
Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:31 am to Chicken
I would say #2 is the biggest thing, and has been the recent downfall of programs like Florida and Texas, etc, but Saban has been able to find "game managers" as you call them in McElroy & McCarron and has won 3 out of the 4 last national titles with guys like that.
Why? because of the emphasis on defense and the running game/OL. And most importantly, his attention to detail in every facet.
Which would answer your question about what Miles has to do; he lacks the attention to detail that a Coach like Saban has. Couple that with gameday adjustments/awareness. Miles has a tough time seeing the big picture while on the sideline. It's certainly not player talent. And Im not sure it's something he can acquire at this point.
Why? because of the emphasis on defense and the running game/OL. And most importantly, his attention to detail in every facet.
Which would answer your question about what Miles has to do; he lacks the attention to detail that a Coach like Saban has. Couple that with gameday adjustments/awareness. Miles has a tough time seeing the big picture while on the sideline. It's certainly not player talent. And Im not sure it's something he can acquire at this point.
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:31 am to Chicken
So we are basing our future on others decline?
Forget every one else and other teams. What do we need to do to obtain excellence? It has nothing to do with Saban and it has everything to do with what we do from now on. We know what we have now from leadership. It will not change. Is this the horse we want to ride in the derby?
Forget every one else and other teams. What do we need to do to obtain excellence? It has nothing to do with Saban and it has everything to do with what we do from now on. We know what we have now from leadership. It will not change. Is this the horse we want to ride in the derby?
Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:32 am to Chicken
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Question: What do you think are the 2 or 3 major changes that Les needs to make to catch up to Alabama and keep ahead of Auburn, Ole Miss and Texas A&M?
New O-Line coach is a step in the right direction. It is time for Stud to go.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:32 am to Chicken
and define "soon".
Saban is leaving Alabama "soon"? What is that? 10 years from now?
C'mon.
Saban is leaving Alabama "soon"? What is that? 10 years from now?
C'mon.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:33 am to Chicken
Great post. As far as the changes that need to be made-
Much of the coaching talk has centered around Chavis and Miles. However, I think Stud and Raymond both should be on notice. Both the line and secondary have shown signs of regression and poor fundamentals. That's unacceptable IMO.
Much of the coaching talk has centered around Chavis and Miles. However, I think Stud and Raymond both should be on notice. Both the line and secondary have shown signs of regression and poor fundamentals. That's unacceptable IMO.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:34 am to Chicken
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What do you think are the 2 or 3 major changes that Les needs to make to catch up to Alabama and keep ahead of Auburn, Ole Miss and Texas A&M?
I'm usually not a "fire the coach" type, but I think he might wanna take a look at upgrading both Stud and Raymond. moreso Stud, I think Raymond's job will get easier when a few of our current DBs get a full offseason, and we get further fortified by incoming recruits.
other than that, I think we just gotta be patient while some of these guys from the last couple classes come into their own.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:40 am to Chicken
Hey, this all sounds great, but are we about ready to roll out PachydermDroppings.com just in case?
Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:41 am to Chicken
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2. AJ McCarron won't be back
And the starting QB next year will look to be the third straight Alabama QB to win a national title in his first season starting. Probably not a great example to support your case.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:52 am to Chicken
No disrespect meant Chicken, and I'm not disagreeing with your post, however I prefer to address this with the very root core of our problems...Retention.
If retention of our best players can be addressed and remedied, most if not all of our other problems will become much more minor.
I agree that we can 'wait Bama out'...but we need to address OUR problems in the meanwhile.
Almost every one of our current problems comes down to one thing...retention.
I know, it sounds too simple, but contemplate it for a minute or two.
Retention of our top players....
If retention of our best players can be addressed and remedied, most if not all of our other problems will become much more minor.
I agree that we can 'wait Bama out'...but we need to address OUR problems in the meanwhile.
Almost every one of our current problems comes down to one thing...retention.
I know, it sounds too simple, but contemplate it for a minute or two.
Retention of our top players....
Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:54 am to Chicken
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Question: What do you think are the 2 or 3 major changes that Les needs to make to catch up to Alabama and keep ahead of Auburn, Ole Miss and Texas A&M?
1.) Renewed emphasis on recruiting. Up the budget, get rid of Emsinger, bring in a top notch recruiter to help out Frank. No one can dispute the troubling trend of the best 2 or 3 players in the state looking to go elsewhere.
2.) Time for Stud to move on. His player development and overall coaching hasn't been up to par. It's just time for a new perspective on things.
3.) Train in the offseason like we did for the Oregon game in the summer of 2011. Run the hurry up, push the players to be conditioned. I think that set the tone for the year and the difficult schedule we had. I haven't seen anything like that the past 2 years.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:56 am to Chicken
good stuff. I agree that the Rant and Tiger Fans in general need to chill out. We all knew this was going to be a down year, and hell half of us predicted that it would be, so I don't know why some of us are jumping off the cliff because we have 3 losses...
New OL coach...and slap Chief in the offseason and remind him that he isn't at Tennessee, so stop calling the defense as predictably as he did at UT that got him fired. He's slipping into that old mode again.
Geaux Tigers! Let's win out and kick the shite outta whoever we play in the bowl game!
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Question: What do you think are the 2 or 3 major changes that Les needs to make to catch up to Alabama and keep ahead of Auburn, Ole Miss and Texas A&M?
New OL coach...and slap Chief in the offseason and remind him that he isn't at Tennessee, so stop calling the defense as predictably as he did at UT that got him fired. He's slipping into that old mode again.
Geaux Tigers! Let's win out and kick the shite outta whoever we play in the bowl game!
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:02 am to Chicken
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Question: What do you think are the 2 or 3 major changes that Les needs to make to catch up to Alabama and keep ahead of Auburn, Ole Miss and Texas A&M?
It's all cyclical. LSU will be back on top in a year or so. LSU is still pretty close to the top of the heap. One 3rd and 4 play last year would have made LSU the MNC last year.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:03 am to Chicken
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What do you think are the 2 or 3 major changes that Les needs to make to catch up to Alabama and keep ahead of Auburn, Ole Miss and Texas A&M?
My biggest take from this season thus far is that we are getting our asses kicked in the trenches. No matter who we play or OL and DL are getting pushed around all over the field. I believe if any changes should be made it needs to to start there.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:05 am to Chicken
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Chicken! Well said!
Think back to all of the great dynasties in every major sport - it's impossible to sustain that level of success. As mentioned in the thread I started last night, it's both a gift and a curse to a program. Alabama is looking at many years of mediocrity ahead, while LSU will remain an elite program for decades, winning 3 or more national championships in that span.
We have our best years ahead of us, folks!
Think back to all of the great dynasties in every major sport - it's impossible to sustain that level of success. As mentioned in the thread I started last night, it's both a gift and a curse to a program. Alabama is looking at many years of mediocrity ahead, while LSU will remain an elite program for decades, winning 3 or more national championships in that span.
We have our best years ahead of us, folks!
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:08 am to Chicken
Chicken You are the man, but...duck!
You are the man, but...duck!
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:08 am to Chicken
quote:It's not a cycle, it's a trend. They're are trending up, we are trending down.
It is a cycle.
quote:There's no reason to beleive he wont't be there for a LONG time. Maybe he will retire, but we don't know that, and why would he? He's got the world at his fingertips.
1. Saban won't be there forever.
Hinging your program hopes on whether or not the team you compete with retires or goes into a bad cycle, is in itself a bad omen for LSU.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:15 am to Chicken
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Question: What do you think are the 2 or 3 major changes that Les needs to make to catch up to Alabama and keep ahead of Auburn, Ole Miss and Texas A&M?
I've only got one. Bring back Ron Cooper and his ball hawking DBs. Is he still DB coach at S Fla? Surely TAF can outbid the Bulls.
The lack of timely turnovers still feels strange when watching the Tigers.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:18 am to Chicken
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1. Saban won't be there forever. And his successor will struggle to fill his legendary shoes just like Zook did at Florida, Solich did at Nebraska, etc. If he doesn't leave this year to take the Texas job, he will probably be retiring in the near future.
Like Miles did at LSU?
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:20 am to Chicken
LBs that are bigger than the average high school safety
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:23 am to Chicken
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do know that we went from being 13-1 to 10-3 and now 7-3 through 10 games of this season, with tough games still to come. That's a decline, albeit not as drastic as some chicken littles like to proclaim. But it is a decline and it is critical that Les rights the ship next season.
We have had a couple of weak recruiting classes which have killed the depth we are known for. Over the past two seasons, when a game changer has left, there hasn't been one to fill his shoes. However recruiting is looking up with last years class, this years, and our prospects with some bigtime 2015-17 recruits.
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What do you think are the 2 or 3 major changes that Les needs to make to catch up to Alabama and keep ahead of Auburn, Ole Miss and Texas A&M?
We need a new OL coach and hopefully one that is a better recruiter than Stud. I'd also like to see the program bring back some of our younger football alumni to be part of the recruiting staff (like a Chad Jones). I also believe they need to be on more recruits and earlier (which they seem to have come around to). Last, i'd like so see some fire out of Miles. The way the offensive line let Mett get killed at the end of Bama...he should have been lighting into them before they made it to the sidelines.
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