re: LES MILES = Bobby Bowden of the SEC

He's 58-17 with one SEC title and one NC appearance. That's better than any other coach in the SEC besides Saban. Let it go, man. There are Halls of Fame filled with guys who weren't as great as Michael Jordon, Jim Brown and Hank Aaron. Les is no Nick but he's STILL a great coach.

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So your saying Saban has learned as a coach and has gotten OBVIOUSLY better since winning his first national championship.

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Why would he, or I, be saying that?

Personally I'm ok with just saying that Saban, as an elite coach, has a MUCH easier time have prolonged success at BAMA than he did at LSU. Being BAMA's coach, with the built in advantages that comes with (I'm not even going to bother to list these again) makes it easier for prolonged success than it is at LSU.

In addition, some fans seem to forget 2004. This was Saban's 5th team and featured a group of guys almost entirely his own. That team needed over time and the help of the gods of filed goal defense to beat an out manned Oregon State team. It lost on The Plains to AU...got prison raped by UGA 45-16, and we all know what happened against Iowa in the bowl game. In year 5, Saban had the team in a position where we had no viable option at QB (5th year Marcus Randall or RS Freshmen Russell of Flynn), had a team that looked unmotivated or unprepared to play games against OSU, UGA, TROY, etc.

But this was 2004...when the LSU fan base had been brow-beaten into submission by Saban into NEVER questioning "The Process." The things which are now pointed out regularly (team playing down to opponents, not prepared, guys leaving early) could not be discussed because to do so was called "catastrophe syndrome."

Personally...from everything I have gathered from talking to people over the years, I think Saban's time here was running out anyway because of his nature. But assuming for a second people could have tolerated him, I see no reason at all that Saban would not have had continued "success" at the level he had already had while at LSU. I can only hope it would have been equal to what we've seen Miles' teams accomplish. To think it would have automatically matched what we've seen him do at BAMA JUST because it's the same coach is just a comical assumption...which by itself would not be that big a deal. The problem is that in making that assumption far too many LSU fans have become jaded to just how good we DO have it, and have worked themselves up into a state where they can never be happy.