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re: Did anyone actually at LSU when Saban was coach have run ins with him?

Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by LSUSwing
Dallas
Member since Dec 2007
136 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:55 pm to
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I think Miles is a good guy but he doesn't seem to care about his job or excellence like Saban does


If you equate "excellence" only with wins then you're sadly mistaken. Please don't misunderstand me. I like winning just as much as anyone else. But if the sole standard of "excellence" is wins then you don't know what you're talking about.

Miles exudes excellence in his demeanor, he brings it out in his players, he shows it in his human interactions with others and he creates leaders because of his caring attitude. A true leader brings up other leaders. He doesn't scream, yell, and browbeat them into submission. If you've done any reading, you'll understand that players WANT to play for Miles because of his excellence. Players would COME BACK to play for Miles for the same reason. Make no mistake, he knows football better than probably anyone on the rant. But he has and brings out excellence in himself and others.

I know that this may not be understood by all but I'd rather have Les over Nick any day. I'm positive that Les is one of the guys that's always improving himself. I think it's funny that the one's who think they don't need self-development are the ones that need it the most.

In any case, to you and
Posted by airbornetiger
SATX
Member since Sep 2006
1416 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 1:09 pm to
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Miles exudes excellence in his demeanor, he brings it out in his players, he shows it in his human interactions with others and he creates leaders because of his caring attitude


....and Miles actually knows who his kids are and what his kids do...he is comfortable and balanced because he understands that WIN-AT-ALL-COST though nice for ignorant fans does not teach true life lessons to his family and his players. I think Miles is there as much for his players as he expects them to be there for him. Saban, on the other hand,gives me the impression that the program is all about him and his image, not preparing young men to be successful in life--especially if football ends when they leave Bama.

Saban is successful, lucky, and an opportunist--he isn't as great as he is made out to be. Freak hit on McCoy gives him the advantage--and Bama hung on to win. The do-over in '12 was a gift--and he maximized on it. Last year was a missed tackle that let's Bama escaped with a win--nothing too magical from Saban caused that result.

Miles--coaching is what I do--not who I am.

Saban--coaching is who I am.
Posted by DrakeLSU
Kansas
Member since Dec 2012
1348 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 11:30 pm to
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If you equate "excellence" only with wins then you're sadly mistaken. Please don't misunderstand me. I like winning just as much as anyone else. But if the sole standard of "excellence" is wins then you don't know what you're talking about.

Miles exudes excellence in his demeanor, he brings it out in his players, he shows it in his human interactions with others and he creates leaders because of his caring attitude. A true leader brings up other leaders. He doesn't scream, yell, and browbeat them into submission. If you've done any reading, you'll understand that players WANT to play for Miles because of his excellence. Players would COME BACK to play for Miles for the same reason. Make no mistake, he knows football better than probably anyone on the rant. But he has and brings out excellence in himself and others.


I'm sorry, but excellence in the world of CFB and CFB coaching is only determined by wins. It's the harsh but honest truth. He is not a professor or sales team manager where the things you mentioned, matter, he is a football coach. And when discussing CFB, excellence=wins. I'm not a Miles basher, look at my post history. I think he is an OK coach who is in an excellent situation making him an above average coach, but I like him. I don't think he will go anywhere nor do I want him too. I'm just saying, your validity for excellence is far off for a profession that is only revolves around 1 thing.
This post was edited on 11/6/13 at 11:32 pm
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