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re: Ok it is time for the coaches to step up and do the right thing.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 3:06 pm to Dudebro2
Posted on 10/20/13 at 3:06 pm to Dudebro2
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So why does anyone think that playing AJ a qtr a game will mean we will lose a game? And if you do think that putting AJ into the game this year will mean we will lose the game, what does that mean for next year? How many games will we lose next year if AJ playing one qtr a game this year will cost us the game?
I don't think we're so well tooled that we can afford to give our second best option time at the expense of the starter. I'm sure we'd all love to be dominant enough to give AJ a half of every game for the rest of the season. But we aren't. We'll need the best of Mett (who's a good deal better than AJ) just to salvage what's left of the season. Hell, we may need to use Furman to get him some confidence back.
Again, though, I'm sympathetic to your argument.
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 3:08 pm
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Posted on 10/20/13 at 3:07 pm to Dudebro2
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Ok so genius our next opponent is who?
I don't think anyone disagrees with giving him PT in a blowout. nice strawman
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3yr starter for a high school team that won a state championship my senior year, 15 yrs coaching, JV & Varsity football.
So you're a high school super star in your head. Congrats on your life accomplishments
Have you ever watched CFB? Did you watch this weekend? The SEC Championship, while unlikely, is still not out of reach.
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 3:11 pm to fightingtiger2335
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So what you want to do with your team is tell them to quit while still alive.
Seriously you have never played a team sport have you???
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Actually the west is still technically alive
And technically if you had a brain you wouldn't be considered a dumb-arse but I doubt it.
Who the frick said to tell the team to quit. Do you think Mett doesn't understand that LSU football needs to continue and thrive after he is gone? Your a fricking idiot!!! And I would bet anything you want you have never played on any gridiron!!!
Posted on 10/20/13 at 3:14 pm to OTIS2
Otis, why are you showing your arse?
Posted on 10/20/13 at 3:24 pm to TigerBait1127
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So you're a high school super star in your head. Congrats on your life accomplishments
You asked what my experience in football was and I answered it. Now since you don't like the answer because you now know that I have more experience in the game than you do and obviously know more than you, you don't like it to bad I don't give a shite.
What part of my original statement could you not understand when I said;
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we now have to start to plan for being successful next year along with finishing up this year.
It is called comprehension, please try it I promise you it will help you understand when you read!!
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The SEC Championship, while unlikely, is still not out of reach.
It is so remote it is highly unlikely and we have no control over it.
The biggest question I have for all you arm chair coach potatoes that have never played the game. What makes you feel so confident that putting AJ in the game for a qtr will cost us the game? And if AJ playing for ONE qtr a game will cost us a game this year, how many games will it cost us next year? Did you ever think about that?
Our goals this year are done, do we have a chance? Yes but please be realistic with your argument, the chance is so remote it really is not a chance. Bama's defense is not a&m's defense and Auburn is going to find that out. But Bama's offense is as good as a&m's offense do you not remember the score of the a&m/bama game.
Look getting AJ playing time this year so he is comfortable next year needs to be priority for the simple fact that QB is the most important position on the field. I didn't want LSU to lose the game last night and the only positive that can be taken away, and I mean only positive, is that now that our goals realistically can not be met we can start to prepare for next year as we finish out this year.
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 3:39 pm to Navytiger74
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just to salvage what's left of the season.
That is my point, what season? All our goals are realistically gone we are only playing for what bowl game we are going to at this point and we will probably get screwed their anyway. Bama is not losing 2 games if not even 1 game. People have this unrealistic view that Bama is not going to score on our defense. Sorry to say but last night is a pretty good indication they are going to score big time. Does anyone remember that Bama beat Ole Piss 25-0. It is a little distorted because Ole Piss could have kicked a few field goals and didn't, but the outcome would not have changed.
I don't want to lose any games the rest of this year and our offense really isn't the problem. The coaches have given AJ a lot of praise, I would assume they mean it. So giving him playing time now that our goals are shot so he is better prepared for next year is not only a way to help prepare the team for the future it is the right thing to do for the program. It will also help recruiting.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 3:50 pm to Dudebro2
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You asked what my experience in football was and I answered it. Now since you don't like the answer because you now know that I have more experience in the game than you do and obviously know more than you, to bad I don't give a shite.
you brought it up 1000x so I allowed you to suck your own cock. I'm sorry that the best parts of your life happened in high school. You bring it up in way too many posts.
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It is called comprehension, please try it I promise you it will help you understand when you read!!
I comprehend exactly what you posted. The conclusion that you are an idiot is based on that. quote:
It is so remote it is highly unlikely and we have no control over it.
it is remote, just like 2001 and 2007. Upsets happen in CFB, and we get to play Bama.
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The biggest question I have for all you arm chair coach potatoes
like yourself?
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have never played the game.
there you go with that dick sucking again. Have you ever coached at the college level? How do your credentials compare to Les Miles'? It is a 2 way street there, but I guess that simple logic evaded you.
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What makes you feel so confident that putting AJ in the game for a qtr will cost us the game? And if AJ playing for ONE qtr a game will cost us a game this year, how many games will it cost us next year? Did you ever think about that?
you don't abandon this year's team for next years. We aren't eliminated yet, and Mett starts over Jennings for a reason.
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 4:10 pm to TigerBait1127
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Have you ever coached at the college level?
No 1127 I have never played or coached at the college level, that being said I have played and coached at a very high, high school level and I can promise you that schemes, techniques and game plans are not that much different at any level the difference is the players not the game. That is a simplistic view, but I hope you can understand it is a generalization. There is a difference but the biggest difference is the players at each level not the game.
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it is remote, just like 2001 and 2007. Upsets happen in CFB, and we get to play Bama.
I 100% agree with you and last night around CFB is a perfect example but that is the anomaly not the norm, that is why I distinctly stated;
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we now have to start to plan for being successful next year along with finishing up this year.
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How do your credentials compare to Les Miles'?
They don't compare, I never stated that they compared. But that doesn't mean I don't know what I am talking about and as I detailed I have enough experience to make intelligent comments and thoughts on the subject.
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you don't abandon this year's team for next years. We aren't eliminated yet, and Mett starts over Jennings for a reason
I didn't say not to start Mett or to start AJ, please show me where I did. I didn't say to abandon this year's team for next years team. But here are some very simple facts, Mett is done this year and his draft status "if he continues to play like he has this year" is for the most part done. He is a 1st or 2nd rounder, and his play for the rest of this year and his combine efforts will dictate where he goes. We are now talking where he will be taken in spots not rounds. AJ has had high praise from the coaches don't you think he is capable of running the team for a qtr? If you don't than we are really screwed next year. It will help AJ tremendously better prepared for next year to get his feet wet in a big way this year. Now that, for all intensive purpose, all we are playing for is what bowl we are going to this year, don't you want our QB for next year to be better prepared for next year?
I will put it to you this way.
If someone came up to you today and stated that if we played AJ for a qtr a game for the rest of this year it will not change the outcome of any game "win or lose" as if he didn't play at all. Would you let him play a qtr a game?
Please answer that question, thanks.
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 4:19 pm to Dudebro2
Uh no. You play to win. Just because the national championship is out of reach you don't just give up and say get ready for next season. We put this loss behind us, and continue to fight each and every week. I want my best players on the field who gives me the best chance of winning. Sure next week against furman I want to give ?the younger guys some pt. But other than that I need my best players playing because we play to win. No way in hell should aj see a quarter of playing time against bama or tamu. Period.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 4:30 pm to Dudebro2
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If someone came up to you today and stated that if we played AJ for a qtr a game for the rest of this year it will not change the outcome of any game "win or lose" as if he didn't play at all. Would you let him play a qtr a game?
If the game is decided you should always take out your starting QB IMO, regardless of the age of the backup QB and the teams W-L record.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 4:30 pm to QJenk
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Uh no. You play to win. Just because the national championship is out of reach you don't just give up and say get ready for next season.
I 1000% agree with you that you play to win, that is why I distinctly stated;
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along with finishing up this year.
That meant playing to win this year.
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But other than that I need my best players playing because we play to win.
You don't have confidence that AJ can help the team win? You don't think AJ is one of our best players? If that is the case we are really screwed next year.
There are measured risks you take in football and you can go from marco to micro on every decision. But the simple facts are whether we lose another game this year or not is probably not going to change any outcomes except what bowl game we play in. And I want to play in the best bowl game as possible this year as well as next year. But I will take the risk and sacrifice whether we are in the 3rd or 4th position in bowls this year if it will help us get to the NC game next year. Again it is only a risk, it doesn't mean we will sacrifice anything.
I will put this question to you;
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If someone came up to you today and stated that if we played AJ for a qtr a game for the rest of this year it will not change the outcome of any game "win or lose" as if he didn't play at all. Would you let him play a qtr a game
Please answer the question, thanks.
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 4:32 pm to MoreOrLes
Jennings doesn't have it upstairs.....
Posted on 10/20/13 at 4:32 pm to TigerBait1127
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Mett starts over Jennings for a reason.
That is what I thought nothing but crickets from you
You will not respond to the question pussy!!!
[quote]If someone came up to you today and stated that if we played AJ for a qtr a game for the rest of this year it will not change the outcome of any game "win or lose" as if he didn't play at all. Would you let him play a qtr a game[/quote]
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 4:39 pm to bayoubengal03
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Jennings doesn't have it upstairs
Ok if that is the case then we had better find this out now and not next year that will really suck. Losing another game this year will not change the outcome of any of our goals that we just lost. But losing games next year because we did not find out that AJ doesn't have it upstairs until next year, will screw next year too. I don't want that, I hope you don't either.
If what you say is correct and AJ doesn't have it upstairs "find that hard to believe though" we have other options Rivers, Reiting, and we will have Harris. If AJ doesn't give us the best chance to win next year, exactly when do you want to find that out? And when do you want to find out who gives us the best chance to win? Also don't you think one of the best ways to find that out is live game experience? I don't want to lose another game this year, but I definitely don't want to lose another season next year because of not preparing a QB this year for next year when we have the opportunity because our goals for this year are unfortunately "realistically" not attainable.
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 4:44 pm to Dudebro2
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That is what I thought nothing but crickets from you
sorry, i was doing something
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If someone came up to you today and stated that if we played AJ for a qtr a game for the rest of this year it will not change the outcome of any game "win or lose" as if he didn't play at all. Would you let him play a qtr a game
sure, if I knew for a fact that it didn't cost us the game.
Mett starts over Jennings because Mett is better than Jennings. I guess I had to spell that out for you, since you didn't seem to understand my point the 1st time.
You have absolutely no way of knowing that playing Jennings for a quarter won't cost LSU the game. If LSU has the game in hand, than by all means play Jennings. That is the only scenario that your absolutely retarded question is applicable
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You will not respond to the question pussy!!!
nice edit addition. but hey, you played high school football so you're the man. Internet tough guy with the big swinging dick
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 4:58 pm to TigerBait1127
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nice edit addition. but hey, you played high school football so you're the man
Took you long enough to figure that one out!!!
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sure, if I knew for a fact that it didn't cost us the game.
You don't, it is a risk but everything you do in life is a risk but hopefully a calculated risk.
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You have absolutely no way of knowing that playing Jennings for a quarter won't cost LSU the game
That is my point, you want to find that out next year? Let's say we do and he cost games for us next year. Let's say we lose another game this year because of AJ, but it helps us find the right QB for next year and it saves us games next year. What then? My point being now that our goals are shot, there is no harm in trying to help make sure AJ is better prepared for next year because our goals are "realistically" done and over with this year. So losing another game this year would not be the end of the season, but losing games next year will be the end of that season, dummy!!!!
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You have absolutely no way of knowing that playing Jennings for a quarter won't cost LSU the game.
Exactly and you have absolutely no way of knowing that playing AJ for a qtr will cost us the game either or won't help us win the game. It is all about calculated risk, and it is worth the risk to start to prepare for next year since this years goals are done.
You will never get it because you have never played or coached the game. Discussion over you are a nitwit!!!
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 4:59 pm to Dudebro2
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You don't, it is a risk but everything you do in life is a risk but hopefully a calculated risk.
Really? If only I did something like assessing risk for a living... What you want to do is called blind gambling
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You will never get it because you have never played or coached the game. Discussion over you are a nitwit!!!
There you go sucking your dick again. You need help brother
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 5:09 pm to TigerBait1127
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If only I did something like assessing risk for a living.
Your right it might help you understand risk!!
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What you want to do is called blind gambling
I will not embarrass you and ask you what you have ever accomplished in football besides playing Madden NFL because that statement says it all. NOTHING.
Blind gambling is when you know nothing about the situation and just throw chips on the table, you don't know the outcome until the dice land or cards are turned over. Just for your education I will help you here. The coaches, including Miles, have given high praises for AJ and in fact they have inserted him in games. NEWS FLASH for you dumb-arse, giving AJ reps in a game is not blind gambling. What level of education did you actually pass?
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here you go sucking your dick again
It definitely is big enough I could, but instead your mother does it for me!!!!
Also please tell her to douche, she really does stank!!!
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 5:20 pm to Dudebro2
I thought the discussion was over:
hmmm
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Discussion over you are a nitwit!!!
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What level of education did you actually pass?
hmmm
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Your right it might help you understand risk!!
Posted on 10/20/13 at 5:22 pm to Dudebro2
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Unfortunately last night was on you, as bad as the defense did play those 3 ints cost the game.
Cut that shite out. Did Mett give up the game winning drive? No, he got us in contention to play for the W. Lay off him - this shite lies squarely on the defense.....yet again.
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