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re: Pretty tough to argue against Manning being the GOAT at this point

Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:37 pm to
Posted by USMC Gators
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:37 pm to
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Brady can't sniff Peyton Manning. There really isn't much of a comparison. Brady was a "good" QB up until Moss and Welker landed in his lap in 2007.

Manning has always been phenomenal no matter the players, the offensive schemes or the teams. Manning IS the common thread of his own success. Brady can't say that.

Oh dear.
Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:38 pm to
He had plenty of nice offensive weapons in his early years, but the Colts' defense was putrid for the most part during his tenure there. Even in their Super Bowl year, when their defense was said to be improved, they were still in the bottom half of the league. These Denver teams are much more talented overall.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:39 pm to
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Again, one man can't carry an entire team.


He carried Tennessee through 1997. They went 11-2 and won the SEC Championship. When he left everyone was asking how Tennessee could win the SEC again without him. The very next year, with virtually the same team, Tee Martin quarterbacked Tennessee to an undefeated season and a national championship.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:40 pm to
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but the Colts' defense was putrid for the most part during his tenure there


How old are you?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:56 pm to
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Even in their Super Bowl year, when their defense was said to be improved, they were still in the bottom half of the league.


that defense carried them to that championship, not Manning.

Drew Brees laughs at Manning's lack of defense
Posted by tankyank13
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:57 pm to
Ray Lewis (never cared for him) made some great points on how the game is played today favoring the offense, and how someone with skill set like Manning is too easy and almost unfair
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 11:00 pm to
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Ray Lewis (never cared for him) made some great points on how the game is played today favoring the offense, and how someone with skill set like Manning is too easy and almost unfair



It's getting ridiculous. Defensive backs have to play off, allowing guys like Manning, Brady, and Brees to carve them up.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 11:00 pm to
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Ray Lewis (never cared for him) made some great points on how the game is played today favoring the offense


This is very true. All defensive backs can do now is stand back and let the wide receivers catch the ball before tackling them to the ground. You rarely had receivers running this wide open 20+ years ago.

Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 11:01 pm to
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that defense carried them to that championship, not Manning.

Drew Brees laughs at Manning's lack of defense

Exactly. It sure as hell wasn't Peyton with his incredible 3 tds to 7 ints.
Posted by tankyank13
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 11:02 pm to
Not to mention the qb doesn't have to worry about being hit

Look at how a washed up qb like Brett Favre succeeded with talent and today's rules for that season
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 11:04 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 11:47 pm to
The argument concluded when Peyton won his 4th MVP this is just gravy putting distance between himself and the future(Cam).
Posted by benhamin5555
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:44 am to
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The argument concluded when Peyton won his 4th MVP this is just gravy putting distance between himself and the future(Cam).


Obvious troll is obvious
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:48 am to
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Johnny Unitas might have a little something to say about that.


Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:50 am to
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top 5 QB's of all time:


quote:

Drew Brees


This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 12:50 am
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:58 am to
People really think Brees has a legit shot at being the GOAT? Really? The guy who was such a bust that his team drafted a quarterback with the top pick just to replace his arse and then ultimately cut him? Yeah that guy is the GOAT.

Dude is a volume guy plain and simple. The AI of quarterbacks except he goes to practice and has a cute kid. Give me a break Saintards.
Posted by benhamin5555
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 1:02 am to
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People really think Brees has a legit shot at being the GOAT?


Not saying he'll be the GOAT but he certainly has a "legit shot". 5-6 more seasons of putting up his 2011/2009 numbers and one or two more rings would put him in the conversation. Not saying it's likely but it's possible.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 1:06 am to
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that defense carried them to that championship, not Manning.


Bob Sanders FTW








oh, and Manning is the GOAT
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18990 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 1:26 am to
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Obvious troll is obvious


Cam will be the GOAT of the next generation just like Favre was the GOAT of the generation before Peyton.
Posted by benhamin5555
Member since Oct 2009
2368 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 1:33 am to
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Cam will be the GOAT of the next generation just like Favre was the GOAT of the generation before Peyton.


Best case scenario he'll be an above average Donovan McNabb/ Carson Palmer level QB.

Worse case scenario, he'll be in the position Mark Sanchez is in a couple of years.

Cam does not have the makings of an elite NFL QB.
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 1:34 am
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 1:34 am to
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