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Comic Book Fans: how does Batman vs Superman work?
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:13 am
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:13 am
This is not a bash, just an honest inquiry. But how do they handle this matchup, or what's the catch? I know Batman is crafty and has technology out the wazoo, but I can't imagine a scenario where Superman can't just pile drive Batman into a puddle of goo if he so chooses. It's obviously a cool concept, but from my limited knowledge of comic book history with these character, I don't see how it works. Does Superman get nerfed?
I can see they get to a point where they realize they are on the same side and they work together, but is this an actual "they can't stand each other and wish death upon the other" confrontation?
I can see they get to a point where they realize they are on the same side and they work together, but is this an actual "they can't stand each other and wish death upon the other" confrontation?
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:16 am to TulaneTigerFan
So Batman pulls a Gladiator and shoves a piece up Superman's arse?
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:16 am to sicboy
PART 1
PART 2
All for The Dark Knight Returns
Tpyically, Batman quickly figures out that Superman is Clark Kent, I mean no shite right? Those glasses are working Kent! Bats then observes Superman from a distance, devises a way to incapacitate him. Potentially holds him for interrogation / intimidation with kryptonite, or by depriving him of sunlight for an extended period of time.
They have contrasting styles, but learn to trust each other in the end.
PART 2
All for The Dark Knight Returns
Tpyically, Batman quickly figures out that Superman is Clark Kent, I mean no shite right? Those glasses are working Kent! Bats then observes Superman from a distance, devises a way to incapacitate him. Potentially holds him for interrogation / intimidation with kryptonite, or by depriving him of sunlight for an extended period of time.
They have contrasting styles, but learn to trust each other in the end.
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 9:21 am
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:18 am to sicboy
Batman always has a plan. And Kryptonite.
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 9:21 am
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:19 am to sicboy
quote:
This is not a bash, just an honest inquiry. But how do they handle this matchup, or what's the catch? I know Batman is crafty and has technology out the wazoo, but I can't imagine a scenario where Superman can't just pile drive Batman into a puddle of goo if he so chooses.
Well let's start here, this is incorrect.. Batman always keeps kryptonite in his belt. In a fight between Batman and Superman... Batman pretty much wins every time - FWIW, there is even a series on the Justice League where you find out that Batman has a "contingency" for every single member of the justice league to "take them out"
When Superman ask him why, Batman basically responds with a "you being a bad guy is one of the scariest scenarios I think any of us could think of"
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It's obviously a cool concept, but from my limited knowledge of comic book history with these character, I don't see how it works. Does Superman get nerfed?
in a sense.. once again, Batman couldn't ever lose to Supes, Batman will always have the Kryptonite on him.
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I can see they get to a point where they realize they are on the same side and they work together, but is this an actual "they can't stand each other and wish death upon the other" confrontation?
Nope, they are good friends - Batman, though dark - still cherishes human life and refuses to kill, just like supes (in fact I believe Supes has kill more people in the comic books than batman), just look how he keeps the joker alive, even after the joker paralyzes a teenage girl and kills his teenage sidekick!!!
P.S: They become extremely good friends because of the Justice league as well, working together and all that jazz.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:21 am to Freauxzen
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Batman always has a plan. And Kryptonite.
blah you changed it, I forgot to mention Batman also has the suit...
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:22 am to sicboy
the dark knight returns as exhibit A, but that just is too "comicy" for a movie.
as much as i love batman and supes is my #2...I will not watch this movie...
on opening night
as much as i love batman and supes is my #2...I will not watch this movie...
on opening night
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 9:23 am
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:25 am to schexyoung
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They have contrasting styles
Is this the source of their feud? Seems petty if so.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:27 am to sicboy
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Is this the source of their feud? Seems petty if so.
Well "The Dark Knight Returns" happens in a different universe all together FWIW.. and is based in the future (Bruce Wayne is 55 years of age) and Superman works for the US government.
Needless to say, Superman is a government lacky and something bad happens... and Superman and Batman end up on the opposite sides of the conflict from each other.
Batman teams up with Oliver Queen (Green Arrow) and they fight off Superman.
Slight Spoilers below:
There is a nuclear weapon dropped on the US, which causes a nuclear winter, Batman becomes the "law" in Gotham and creates the "safest" city in the US which is a disgrace to the US Government.. so they send in their lackey (Superman) to deal with Batman.
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 9:31 am
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:30 am to sicboy
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Is this the source of their feud? Seems petty if so.
The largest source of the feud is that Batman sees Superman as a threat to humanity. In addition, Superman doesn't like Batman's win at all cost anti-boy scout mentality.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:50 am to BaddestAndvari
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blah you changed it, I forgot to mention Batman also has the suit...
Thought the suit was too technical of a discussion
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:56 am to Freauxzen
Superman can easily defeat Batman if he really wanted to. Just fly out to space and nuke Batman with heat vision. In no way could Batman realistically sneak up on Superman bc of Supes SUPER senses.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:59 am to BaddestAndvari
quote:uumm Supes cant eye death ray him from a distance......seems like a pretty easy solution.
in a sense.. once again, Batman couldn't ever lose to Supes, Batman will always have the Kryptonite on him.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:02 am to CarRamrod
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uumm Supes cant eye death ray him from a distance......seems like a pretty easy solution.
He could always do this, he never does though, probably because at the end of the day Superman has an ego as well, and wouldn't want to "snipe" batman down
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:03 am to CarRamrod
Or Supes could throw a bomb at Batman's face.
The idea that Batman can beat Supes is a silly one.
The idea that Batman can beat Supes is a silly one.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:08 am to MrFreakinMiyagi
quote:yea or grab a building and slam it on him.
Or Supes could throw a bomb at Batman's face.
The idea that Batman can beat Supes is a silly one.
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:10 am to MrFreakinMiyagi
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Or Supes could throw a bomb at Batman's face.
The idea that Batman can beat Supes is a silly one.
the idea that superman would stoop to such a pussy arse move to defeat an enemy is really the silly one. you completely disregard a man's ego - and this is a superman for fricks sake.
bitch arse sniping games like call of duty have ruined this generation
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:12 am to jcole4lsu
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you completely disregard a man's ego - and this is a superman for fricks sake.
AND THIS IS SUPERMAN
Most important words of the whole thing
One of the reasons Superman is one of my least liked characters in comic books..... his freakin' ego, but why wouldn't have have an ego, he's a demi-god
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:16 am to jcole4lsu
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the idea that superman would stoop to such a pussy arse move to defeat an enemy
And what does that make Batman? The dude has to sleep, shower, and crap with kryptonite around his neck in case he has to cheat out a win. Why not be a real man and fight superman straight up? Oh right...he can't.
Supes wins. The writers giving Batman the win is the equivalent of giving the class retard an academic achievement award just to make him feel good. YAY!!! EVERYONE GETS A TROPHY!!!
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 10:17 am
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