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re: US Soccer's lack of stars
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:21 pm to Nimbus2000
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:21 pm to Nimbus2000
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Yes Deuce and Timmy could start for England
I don't care about goalies and highly doubtful/debatable Dempsey is starting over Lampard, Gerrard, Wilshere, Walcott, Ox, Cleverley in the midfield.
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:48 pm to RandySavage
Population:
England 50m
France 65m
Germany 82m
Brazil 200m
Argentina 41m
USA 314m
Throw out Brazil from the above and the non-US average is 60m
90% of 60m is 54m
5% of 314m is 16m
So, generously assuming that only 90% of sports-minded kids in those other countries focus mostly on soccer and that even 5% of sports-minded kids in the USA have historically focused on soccer, each of those countries in an average generation has almost 3.5 times as many focused soccer players coming up.
Athleticism is relatively less important, soccer brains at any position are relatively more important than <insert other sport> brains are in any other sport, and it's much harder to develop elite skill with your feet than it is with your hands. All of that adds up to the key ingredient in producing successful soccer players being OBSESSION with soccer.
A small amount of pressure on a huge lump of coal isn't going to produce any diamonds.
The upshot of all of this is that it really only is a matter of time, focus, and a big money league before we do to soccer what we've done to the Olympics. That's why I so greatly enjoy being the underdog now. One day we'll be as spoiled as LSU football fans are (speaking for myself there).
Amazing thing is that Brazil isn't even more dominant than they are, but that's part of the beauty of soccer.
England 50m
France 65m
Germany 82m
Brazil 200m
Argentina 41m
USA 314m
Throw out Brazil from the above and the non-US average is 60m
90% of 60m is 54m
5% of 314m is 16m
So, generously assuming that only 90% of sports-minded kids in those other countries focus mostly on soccer and that even 5% of sports-minded kids in the USA have historically focused on soccer, each of those countries in an average generation has almost 3.5 times as many focused soccer players coming up.
Athleticism is relatively less important, soccer brains at any position are relatively more important than <insert other sport> brains are in any other sport, and it's much harder to develop elite skill with your feet than it is with your hands. All of that adds up to the key ingredient in producing successful soccer players being OBSESSION with soccer.
A small amount of pressure on a huge lump of coal isn't going to produce any diamonds.
The upshot of all of this is that it really only is a matter of time, focus, and a big money league before we do to soccer what we've done to the Olympics. That's why I so greatly enjoy being the underdog now. One day we'll be as spoiled as LSU football fans are (speaking for myself there).
Amazing thing is that Brazil isn't even more dominant than they are, but that's part of the beauty of soccer.
This post was edited on 8/15/13 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:50 pm to RandySavage
If Dempsey had been British, his form at Fulham would have seen a call-up for friendlies and after that all you need to do is impress the Intl. Team manager. I do think in alternate universe land, Dempsey works his way into the English team possibly as a starter but more realistically as a solid sub.
Posted on 8/15/13 at 3:43 pm to RandySavage
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I don't care about goalies and highly doubtful/debatable Dempsey is starting over Lampard, Gerrard, Wilshere, Walcott, Ox, Cleverley in the midfield.
Not debatable. Deuce is a good player but he's not getting anywhere near Englands XI. The England hate has gotten to a point where they are probably actually underrated. They aren't Germany, Spain, Argentina, or Brazil but they have some really, really good players. Far better than ours.
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I wouldn't trade one for one any player with the US team.
I think you're just saying this to say it. But if you believe that, then you are not very smart.
This post was edited on 8/15/13 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 8/15/13 at 4:10 pm to RandySavage
quote:
I don't care about goalies and highly doubtful/debatable Dempsey is starting over Lampard, Gerrard, Wilshere, Walcott, Ox, Cleverley in the midfield.
No team gets by more on reputation than England. There has been nothing special about any of their recent teams and the vast majority of players I've seen in recent years.
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