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re: ESPN: Johnny Manziel under NCAA investigation for profiting from autographs
Posted on 8/4/13 at 6:40 pm to Nick Papa Georgio
Posted on 8/4/13 at 6:40 pm to Nick Papa Georgio
Very serious.
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Posted on 8/4/13 at 6:42 pm to theebuckeyenut
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Never plays another down for TAMU
I've been predicting for months he wouldn't finish the season with A&M. Looks like he may not even start it.
Who didn't see this coming?
Posted on 8/4/13 at 6:43 pm to 4LSU2
Is the NCAA is going to suspend him this season OR will they suspend him X amount of games and make him pay the money back?
Posted on 8/4/13 at 6:43 pm to 4LSU2
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TAM should really consider not playing him until they figure out what exactly has transpired since his last game. They don't need major infractions in their first few years of SEC pla
What does A&M risk by playing him? Forfeiting wins?
Correct me if I'm wrong but unless the NCAA can establish a link btw Manziel and a coach/booster they can't punish A&M on the current allegations right?
And if they can establish said link then the damage is already done.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 6:45 pm to jacks40
NCAA = Worst organization ever!
Posted on 8/4/13 at 6:48 pm to jacks40
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What does A&M risk by playing him? Forfeiting wins?
Correct me if I'm wrong but unless the NCAA can establish a link btw Manziel and a coach/booster they can't punish A&M on the current allegations right?
They have to prove this happened. The burden of proof lies with the NCAA.
Signed,
Cam Newton
Posted on 8/4/13 at 6:49 pm to jacks40
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Awesome, but I didn't ask you to defend the rule ell.
What happens if he makes money off his autograph?
In this single case, he's ruled ineligible.
But from the NCAA "official" perspective, if student-athletes are allowed to profit from anything that associates them with their status as an athlete, it would open the floodgates. Boosters/schools could promise to "purchase" signatures/memorabilia from recruits causing free-for-all bidding wars on high school athletes.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 6:51 pm to jacks40
Forfeit games, loss of scholarships, loss of bowl legibility, etc ala Ohio State with the athletes selling memorabilia and profiting off of it. If they know he's guilty of NCAA violations, they have a responsibility to report it and deal with the consequences. I'm not an expert by any means, but one can never predict what the NCAA will do. All I'm saying is that they are now in the premier conference and have the best future in college football in the football factory of America. They're not risking their future for a prick that doesn't even want to attend class on campus.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 6:53 pm to Interception
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They have to prove this happened. The burden of proof lies with the NCAA.
Signed,
Cam Newton
With no subpoena power.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 6:55 pm to ell_13
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In this single case, he's ruled ineligible.
If they can prove it, if they can't what happens then? Nothing.
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But from the NCAA "official" perspective, if student-athletes are allowed to profit from anything that associates them with their status as an athlete, it would open the floodgates
Aka it would end the sham of amateurism the NCAA wants to perpetuate and profit off of.
Some huge change isn't what I'm expecting though. I acknowledge the fact that if the NCAA can prove this allegation he will probably be ruled ineligible. I'm simply hoping the NCAA fails to do so.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 6:58 pm to jacks40
You asked for worse case scenario. Obviously, the NCAA could take 8 months looking under stones and not find a thing that sticks.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 7:00 pm to 4LSU2
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Forfeit games, loss of scholarships, loss of bowl legibility, etc ala Ohio State with the athletes selling memorabilia and profiting off of it. If they know he's guilty of NCAA violations, they have a responsibility to report it and deal with the consequences
Right, so like I said the NCAA has to prove a link btw Maziels "violations" and A&M. At Ohio St. the link was Jim Tressel and his knowledge. Absent that link though I don't think scholarships bowls probation etc is on the table.
If that link does exist for A&M then playing Manziel this season won't change anything.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 7:02 pm to ell_13
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You asked for worse case scenario
I meant for what happens if he got away with selling his autograph. Thanks for everything else though ell.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 7:04 pm to jacks40
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If that link does exist for A&M then playing Manziel this season won't change anything.
If they can only prove he took money this offseason, how can the school/team be punished? Only if he's ruled ineligible and actually plays will the team have to forfeit those games. So unless the NCAA can make a ruling in the next three weeks (
), keeping him off the field could save some wins and bowl eligibility this year and possibly bowl games and scholarships in the future.Posted on 8/4/13 at 7:08 pm to ell_13
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So unless the NCAA can make a ruling in the next three weeks ( ), keeping him off the field could save some wins and bowl eligibility this year and possibly bowl games and scholarships in the future.
I understand they might have to forfeit wins but absent a ruling that A&M knew or should have known Manziel was violating NCAA rules how is A&M at risk of losing bowl games and and scholarships in the future?
Posted on 8/4/13 at 7:08 pm to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
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Cam and Cecil Newton say hello
You really want to align yourself with those two?
Posted on 8/4/13 at 7:09 pm to jacks40
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absent a ruling that A&M knew or should have known Manziel was violating NCAA rules
ask USCPosted on 8/4/13 at 7:10 pm to wildtigercat93
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You really want to align yourself with those two?
They got away with it didnt they?
Cam Newton isn't sending his Heisman back ala Reggie Bush.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 7:11 pm to jacks40
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jacks40
I don't remember seeing you stand up for Reggie Bush for doing much less.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 7:12 pm to ell_13
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ask USC
The NCAA rules that USC/ Todd McNair knew about Reggie Bush and should have done something.
Also most everyone acknowledges that the NCAA hit USC for not cooperating with the investigation as much as anything else.
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