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re: 2013 NBA Draft Thread | Pelicans acquire Jrue Holiday and Pierre Jackson

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Posted by macatak911
Metairie, LA
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:46 pm to
Michael McNamara ?@McNamara247 1m
Just went to 76ers fan board. First post was "Jrue Holiday traded for Noel and 2014 pick." Second message was "Kill Yourself"
Posted by simbo
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:47 pm to
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I understand that we would get a good player next year but if jrue continues to improve (being already an all-star) he would be better off the bat than anyone we would have next year.


Thats cool but you had the only real allstar from the 2013 draft fall in your lap in McLemore and you trade that and your lotto pick next year for a good PG. Good luck.

Like I said if you want a really good future PG draft Burke and keep your 2014 lotto pick.
Posted by JayJay2
cane sweeeeeeet tea, Luzianne
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:48 pm to
We do keep it. if it is in the top 5, it's ours.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:50 pm to
Posted by BobBarker
Bompton
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:50 pm to
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And throw in EGo and Rivers.


Don't forget Ryno baby. Can't forget Ryno. Hopefully we'll be able to add a Martell Webster type at SF.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56332 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

Thats cool but you had the only real allstar from the 2013 draft fall in your lap in McLemore and you trade that and your lotto pick next year for a good PG. Good luck.

Like I said if you want a really good future PG draft Burke and keep your 2014 lotto pick.



stop trying dude this is a great trade, jrue is a better player than McLemore, losing the 2014 pick does suck but we will improve alot from this trade and we won't lose that much in the 2014 draft.
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 8:56 pm
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:51 pm to
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We do keep it. if it is in the top 5, it's ours.



exactly so while at 6-10 it could hurt us but if we tank again we would get it anyway.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:51 pm to
I fricking love David Stern
Posted by Pedro
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Posted by jojothetireguy
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:52 pm to
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Simbo


I love how you keep calling him a good pg. an all star in the east is not just a good pg
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 8:53 pm
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:52 pm to
David Stern
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30237 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:53 pm to
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Like I said if you want a really good future PG draft Burke and keep your 2014 lotto pick.


This

I get Holiday is an all star, but he isn't worth 2 1st rounders.

IF we get a top 5 pick next year, then obviously that makes it a straight up 2013 pick for Holiday, which I think is a great deal for us.

BUT, again, assuming Holiday is a beast like you all say, we don't get a 1st rounder next year in supposedly one of the deepest, most talent laden draft in recent memory.

I don't like risking that 2014 1st rounder. IT's not about McLemore, Burke, McCollum vs Holiday straight up. You take Holiday in that situation every time. But to risk your 2014 pick in next years beefy draft as well? Not a good move for us IMO.

Not to mention, if we are drafting in the top 5 next year, then we haven't improved enough to warrant the trade anyway.

ETA:

Scenario 1: We get Holiday and lose our 2013 and 2014 picks

Scenario 2: We take Burke, McLemore, McCollum and keep our 2014 pick

I like Scenario 2
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 8:55 pm
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81265 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:53 pm to
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stop trying dude this is a great trade, jrue is a better player than McLemore, loosing the 2014 pick does suck but we will improve alot from this trade and we won't loose that much in the 2014 draft.



i can't trust someone who doesn't know the difference between loose and lose
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:55 pm to


Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
33029 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:56 pm to
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you had the only real allstar from the 2013 draft


LINK?


That's your opinion. You don't know how he will turn out. I know Holliday is an all star: LINK

Would you seriously taken McLemore over CP3 after CP3's 3rd year in the NBA?
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56332 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:57 pm to
I hate using this as an excuse but when people insult my intelligence I have to use it.

I actually have a disability that makes my spelling and grammar worse. Its a common error I make.

I wish I could PM this instead of having to waste a post on explaining this.
Posted by JayJay2
cane sweeeeeeet tea, Luzianne
Member since Jul 2010
15359 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:57 pm to
I like number 1. You don't think we slide in the playoffs or close to it next year? You harping on draft picks, but were getting someone good who can lead the team AND is young. I understand your talking but this is a great trade.
Posted by DCBJR6
Madisonville, LA
Member since Jan 2011
4251 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:58 pm to
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we don't get a 1st rounder next year in supposedly one of the deepest, most talent laden draft in recent memory.


They've compared next year to '03. After Wade went at 5 it was:

Chris Kaman
Kirk Hinrich
T.J. Ford
Michael Sweetney
Jarvis Hayes
Mikael Pietrus
Nick Collison
Marcus Banks
Luke Ridnour

That's 6-14. Are any of those players at that time + Noel better than Jrue? No.
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 9:01 pm
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136928 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:59 pm to
Plumlee to nets....lulz
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56332 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:59 pm to
quote:

Kaman
Hinrich
Ford
Sweetney
Hayes
Pietrus
Collison
Banks
Ridnour


proof that this won't be a huge deal cause I really only know collins on that list.

granted I don't follow the NBA that much.
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